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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:23 pm

elijah77jc wrote:
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filmdude100cms wrote:in that situation ear buds would fall out or not supply enough sound for you to hear.
those monitoring systems brock posted have buds
not those i mean the kind that come with your ipod.
Those would never be loud enough.

And yeah, I was talking about the metronome. That'd distract that band members I'd think anyway.
actually a lot of professional bands do use metronomes in their IEMs.
I'm not doubting that they do. I just think that if the band has the talent, they can do just fine, if not better without a metronome. Plus, playing a concert with a metronome would take away the "trueness" of the concert I think.
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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:08 pm

yeah cause then you cant go into a jam, jams usually change timing, then eventually they slowly come back, so youd be jammin with this off sync tick in your ear, itd suck.

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Unread post by i like tictacs » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:15 pm

ive never heard of someone performing live with a metronome or click track in their ear. that's the drummers job, and if you are in a band where the drummer is so bad you need a click track, im sorry but you should quit.
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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:34 pm

if not the bassist, i hate to say it but most people use them mostly to keep rythm going.

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Unread post by Thomas » Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:11 pm

i like tictacs wrote:ive never heard of someone performing live with a metronome or click track in their ear. that's the drummers job, and if you are in a band where the drummer is so bad you need a click track, im sorry but you should quit.
well the band that i know that does it really uses it for the songs where the guitar player comes in way before the drums do.

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Unread post by GuitarGuy305 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:10 pm

Cheating? No. But I wouldn't use them. Like was already mentioned, what if you wanted to go off on some tangent and jam out a bit. If the tempo changes, you've got this annoying clicking that's off tempo, or at least in the wrong time.

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:47 pm

GuitarGuy305 wrote:Cheating? No. But I wouldn't use them. Like was already mentioned, what if you wanted to go off on some tangent and jam out a bit. If the tempo changes, you've got this annoying clicking that's off tempo, or at least in the wrong time.
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Unread post by Xiablo » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:20 pm

personally I wont touch IEMs because a lot of the jamming is too unpredictible. Im fine when it comes to time, just not fine when it comes to trying to hear my bass with my ears plugged.
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Unread post by Brock » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:23 pm

Xiablo wrote:personally I wont touch IEMs because a lot of the jamming is too unpredictible. Im fine when it comes to time, just not fine when it comes to trying to hear my bass with my ears plugged.
IEM doesn't stand for In-Ear Metronome, it stands for In-Ear Monitor. An IEM is precisely what you're asking for. (The metronome thing was just sort of thrown in and isn't related to IEMs.) An IEM sends a mixed signal from the soundboard (you can configure the mix however you would like) straight to your IEM, which helps block out background noise while letting you hear whatever mix helps you play better.
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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:29 pm

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Xiablo wrote:personally I wont touch IEMs because a lot of the jamming is too unpredictible. Im fine when it comes to time, just not fine when it comes to trying to hear my bass with my ears plugged.
IEM doesn't stand for In-Ear Metronome, it stands for In-Ear Monitor. An IEM is precisely what you're asking for. (The metronome thing was just sort of thrown in and isn't related to IEMs.) An IEM sends a mixed signal from the soundboard (you can configure the mix however you would like) straight to your IEM, which helps block out background noise while letting you hear whatever mix helps you play better.
well i dont think id like IEM's mainly cause i like to listen to all the guys im jammin with and play off all of them in some way or another, and fallow wherever they lead and take it another way. so just listening to one person might not work well.

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Xiablo wrote:personally I wont touch IEMs because a lot of the jamming is too unpredictible. Im fine when it comes to time, just not fine when it comes to trying to hear my bass with my ears plugged.
IEM doesn't stand for In-Ear Metronome, it stands for In-Ear Monitor. An IEM is precisely what you're asking for. (The metronome thing was just sort of thrown in and isn't related to IEMs.) An IEM sends a mixed signal from the soundboard (you can configure the mix however you would like) straight to your IEM, which helps block out background noise while letting you hear whatever mix helps you play better.
well i dont think id like IEM's mainly cause i like to listen to all the guys im jammin with and play off all of them in some way or another, and fallow wherever they lead and take it another way. so just listening to one person might not work well.
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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:39 pm

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Xiablo wrote:personally I wont touch IEMs because a lot of the jamming is too unpredictible. Im fine when it comes to time, just not fine when it comes to trying to hear my bass with my ears plugged.
IEM doesn't stand for In-Ear Metronome, it stands for In-Ear Monitor. An IEM is precisely what you're asking for. (The metronome thing was just sort of thrown in and isn't related to IEMs.) An IEM sends a mixed signal from the soundboard (you can configure the mix however you would like) straight to your IEM, which helps block out background noise while letting you hear whatever mix helps you play better.
well i dont think id like IEM's mainly cause i like to listen to all the guys im jammin with and play off all of them in some way or another, and fallow wherever they lead and take it another way. so just listening to one person might not work well.
ok well will it like be mixed like how the crowd hears it or what?

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filmdude100cms wrote:
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Xiablo wrote:personally I wont touch IEMs because a lot of the jamming is too unpredictible. Im fine when it comes to time, just not fine when it comes to trying to hear my bass with my ears plugged.
IEM doesn't stand for In-Ear Metronome, it stands for In-Ear Monitor. An IEM is precisely what you're asking for. (The metronome thing was just sort of thrown in and isn't related to IEMs.) An IEM sends a mixed signal from the soundboard (you can configure the mix however you would like) straight to your IEM, which helps block out background noise while letting you hear whatever mix helps you play better.
well i dont think id like IEM's mainly cause i like to listen to all the guys im jammin with and play off all of them in some way or another, and fallow wherever they lead and take it another way. so just listening to one person might not work well.
Wel,. I'd agree with you if it was a smaller gig. Larger gigs you don't really have a choice unless you really wanna damage your ears. All your average plug tends to do is make you lose your sense of tone....just imagine taking ice tea and adding a crap load of water, it doesn't taste or look like ice tea anymore.

And its not like you cant hear the rest of the guys, because you just mix it a certain way. Basically what the crowd would hear, but with your bass more towards the front so you can distinguish the tone. So its not like your not going to hear your bandmates.
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Unread post by GuitarGuy305 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:47 pm

The time's I have used in ear's the mix in them sounds like if you were listening to the song on CD, with you a little bit louder than everyone else. But you are only louder in your IEM, not to everyone. Everyone else is the loudest person in their personal mix. If that makes sense...


My big problem with IEMs are that good ones are so damn expensive. My own gigs are still small enough that I just use a floor monitor.

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Unread post by thejoe » Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:02 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
Xiablo wrote:personally I wont touch IEMs because a lot of the jamming is too unpredictible. Im fine when it comes to time, just not fine when it comes to trying to hear my bass with my ears plugged.
IEM doesn't stand for In-Ear Metronome, it stands for In-Ear Monitor. An IEM is precisely what you're asking for. (The metronome thing was just sort of thrown in and isn't related to IEMs.) An IEM sends a mixed signal from the soundboard (you can configure the mix however you would like) straight to your IEM, which helps block out background noise while letting you hear whatever mix helps you play better.
well i dont think id like IEM's mainly cause i like to listen to all the guys im jammin with and play off all of them in some way or another, and fallow wherever they lead and take it another way. so just listening to one person might not work well.
ok well will it like be mixed like how the crowd hears it or what?
yep, it does the same thing that a floor monitor does, except its like a headphone version of it, sort of.. but these are way more expensive

and you will never be able to hear everyone without some kind of monitor
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