Is John Mayer a better guitar player than Dave Matthews?

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Unread post by mbgreen » Sat Jul 12, 2003 2:08 pm

firedancer86 wrote:certainly fella's...sorry if I "highly offended"

just when I see a new guy post something, then somebody say "who the F*** topped this", you might "highly offend" them ;)
The original thread starter topped his own thread three weeks after it had died...I don't think any newbies should take offense. I'll leave it at that because I certainly am not going to be topping this thread anymore... :!:
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Unread post by subotai » Sat Jul 12, 2003 2:29 pm

So is he making fun of Dave in that impression?

BTW You guys complaining about the thread only bumps it more.

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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:33 pm

john mayer is a tool but he smokes dave any day of the week musically. dave doesn't hold a candle to john's talent...it's not even close. they're both moronic people too...john just talks about his penis in interviews while dave prefers to babble senselessly like a moron. anyways, john mayer is about a thousand times better guitarist than matthews, and if anyone honestly disagree's, well, you should kill yourself because you worship the most overrated musician in history.
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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:35 pm

w0odman wrote:eh, I won't get into a fight over it. I like both of them. Both are talented. I just prefer Dave. Personally I will never be impressed by another solo after hearing Mr. SRV.

John and Dave are different styles..... Dave can't play like john, and john can't play like dave.
dave can't play like anyone, john can play like anyone, john can play absolutely identical to dave not to mention improving it about a hundred times better than dave ever could dream of doing.
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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:36 pm

jsgksu wrote:Ive listened to that and it is fucking amazing, how the hell did he do that. I cant believe he could just make up some lead stuff that goes exactly with the vocals, he is a very talented guy, especially for being only 25.
it's called music theory, believe it or not, some people actually are real musicians in music!
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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:37 pm

Lying In My Grave wrote:i think if dave wanted to rip, he'd rip. but its not really his style.
i know that john has incredible skill, he does an amazing Lenny, but theyre two different styles. john has to hold himself, while dave has the band.
ha, you're joking right?
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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:38 pm

Trippin Hillbilly wrote:You can't really say who has more talent because they have completely different styles.
Dave's been playing guitar and a bit of piano since he was a kid....dont you think there is a possibility that there is alot that he's not showing us.
I also read somewhere I while back that dave hate's guitar solo's because they're just an ego boost for the guitarist.....but then again...Tim..hmm, dunno.

Anyway, I just think that if dave really wanted to rip it up, he could.

Oh and as for the comment about strumming being easier then soloing... depends how you strum. There is a lot of diferent ways to strum, watch an acoustic Tim show and you'll see what I mean.

no, dave just really does suck. if he could do more, why wouldn't he do it!?!?! hello?!! JIMI THING SOLO?!?! yeah, he doesn't want to show us that he can solo when he takes a solo...that makes a boatload of sense, quit music now.
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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:39 pm

DmbFanJason wrote:have you seen the way mayer plays the rhythm guitar on his songs?...i saw "why georgia" on TV, and his hands just look sloppy, they dont flow well...it looks like a quick struggle to get to the next chord, whereas dave's hands just flow like the ocean baby...it looks like hes doing a dance with his guitar, rather than strumming the guitar like mayer...I guess one way to put it would be "the guitar seems like it's a part of Dave's body and soul, mayer just looks like he's playing or a guitar", get it?...I would say that dave is a better rhtyhm guitar player hands down...john can play lead better I guess, but dave hasnt ever tried, so....john couldnt play daves songs with the proper rhythm.....saying that, I would say that I AM a better rhythm guitarist than mayer!!!YAY!!!
sloppy... :roll: riiiight...
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Unread post by Pickles » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:40 pm

gcom why are you being overly critical tonight?
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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:41 pm

mbgreen wrote:Can Mayer write licks like dave? No. (I'm not implying he wants to.) Can he play everything Dave can, and then some? Yes.

If you think Mayer couldnt play circles around Dave, (In terms of sheer skill on the guitar) you're a moron, plain and simple, and you need to listen to more music.

Having said that, I cant stand Mayer, cause his lyrics are so incredibly pubescent that it makes me sick.

Now this horse is seriously dead. :D
john mayer improv's licks better than dave every night
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Unread post by gcom007 » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:41 pm

shane wrote:gcom why are you being overly critical tonight?
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Unread post by firedancer86 » Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:05 am

Dave is a better songwriter...that is hard to come by nowadays...
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Unread post by gcom007 » Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:41 pm

firedancer86 wrote:Dave is a better songwriter...that is hard to come by nowadays...
how is dave a better songwriter? half of his lyrics don't make sense.
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Unread post by Pickles » Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:42 pm

dont make sense to us... maybe they make sense to him?
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Unread post by billywestom » Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:42 pm

gcom007 wrote:
firedancer86 wrote:Dave is a better songwriter...that is hard to come by nowadays...
how is dave a better songwriter? half of his lyrics don't make sense.
you must really hate DMB, I mean you hang around ALL DAY EVERY DAY and make sure to let everyone know how bad he is.
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