SHN files changing to BAK files???!!!.....

JimiThing · Unread post by **JimiThing** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:24 am

some of my shn's screwed up when I was converting them to mp3's and now they read .BAK files and they are messed up. Anyone know what's up w/ that and how to fix them?

taylordb · Unread post by **taylordb** » Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:17 pm

If you have the mkw Audio Compression window open, go to "options" in the upper left and pick "file options"...a dialog box appears. In that box there are a few check boxes...one of them says "overwrite existing files with new output (uncheck to rename existing files to *.bak)"

Although I don't know what this means (I am new at the SHN thing) it may steer you in the right direction for solving your problem.

Also, without getting into the whole debate on mp3 (lossy) format, the tapers request that their work not be decoded into mp3....just a comment for what its worth.

JimiThing · Unread post by **JimiThing** » Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:43 pm

thanks man. didn't even mess the options thing. I should have snooped around first.

so we aren't suppose to convert them to smaller files just to ease up the drive space on our own pc?

people how do trades and B&Ps... so those are illegal? Im new to this too

Brock · Unread post by **Brock** » Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:51 pm

JimiThing wrote:thanks man. didn't even mess the options thing. I should have snooped around first.

so we aren't suppose to convert them to smaller files just to ease up the drive space on our own pc?

people how do trades and B&Ps... so those are illegal? Im new to this too

No, you are *never* supposed to convert them to smaller files (MP3s) - SHN is as small as they can get without losing quality.

Trades and B&P's are not illegal, as long as no money exchanges hands.

snoopdoug1 · Unread post by **snoopdoug1** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 6:04 am

TrippnBill686 wrote:
JimiThing wrote:thanks man. didn't even mess the options thing. I should have snooped around first.

so we aren't suppose to convert them to smaller files just to ease up the drive space on our own pc?

people how do trades and B&Ps... so those are illegal? Im new to this too
No, you are *never* supposed to convert them to smaller files (MP3s) - SHN is as small as they can get without losing quality.

Trades and B&P's are not illegal, as long as no money exchanges hands.

I guess you could convert them though.. you'd just lose some quality.

Brock · Unread post by **Brock** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 8:21 pm

snoopdoug1 wrote:
TrippnBill686 wrote:
JimiThing wrote:thanks man. didn't even mess the options thing. I should have snooped around first.

so we aren't suppose to convert them to smaller files just to ease up the drive space on our own pc?

people how do trades and B&Ps... so those are illegal? Im new to this too
No, you are *never* supposed to convert them to smaller files (MP3s) - SHN is as small as they can get without losing quality.

Trades and B&P's are not illegal, as long as no money exchanges hands.
I guess you could convert them though.. you'd just lose some quality.

NO.... you do not convert them. Ever.

JimiThing · Unread post by **JimiThing** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 10:35 pm

2 questions then...

how do you guys store the shn files then? Whats the best way. I'd like to get them off my pc b/c each show is about a gig .

second...when people tape trade who authorizes the mp3 file that is burnt ? So is trading legal but illegal?

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 11:09 pm

JimiThing wrote: second...when people tape trade who authorizes the mp3 file that is burnt ? So is trading legal but illegal?

first off, you never trade with mp3's, or shows that have ever been mp3's....anyway. it's not illegal because the music is live, and the band allows taping. it's not the same thing as downloading an album off of kazaa or giving someone a B&P of say Before These Crowded Streets. (yes, i've been asked before....)

JimiThing · Unread post by **JimiThing** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 11:48 pm

a little slow here....

so if someone says they will do a B&P for me of say...last summers cincinnati show...the only way he's going to send it is using mp3...and they are burned DAO....so that you CAN'T do?

taylordb · Unread post by **taylordb** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 4:15 am

If you do a B+P, you SHOULD get SHN files, usually on 3 or 4 disks (or how ever many it takes). If you look at the way the shows are compiled, the tapers usually break them up so the show fits nicely on a number individual disks.

The reason the tapers do not want anyone to decode the shows into mp3 is because that is a format that looses quality every time it is copied...(SHN and WAV formats do not loose quality)...and they do not want the community (yours and mine) diluted with those types of recordings. They are VERY passionate about this...and thank God they are.

If you want to get them off your computer, put them to cd's...but on this I hear you have to be careful to get an EXACT copy to disk, otherwise "pops" will appear randomly. There is a program to do this (you can download it) but I can't remember what it is...have not done that yet...I think I read about it on the boards at Antsmarching.org.

Can anyone else help him out here?

snoopdoug1 · Unread post by **snoopdoug1** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:04 am

taylordb wrote:If you do a B+P, you SHOULD get SHN files, usually on 3 or 4 disks (or how ever many it takes). If you look at the way the shows are compiled, the tapers usually break them up so the show fits nicely on a number individual disks.

The reason the tapers do not want anyone to decode the shows into mp3 is because that is a format that looses quality every time it is copied...(SHN and WAV formats do not loose quality)...and they do not want the community (yours and mine) diluted with those types of recordings. They are VERY passionate about this...and thank God they are.

If you want to get them off your computer, put them to cd's...but on this I hear you have to be careful to get an EXACT copy to disk, otherwise "pops" will appear randomly. There is a program to do this (you can download it) but I can't remember what it is...have not done that yet...I think I read about it on the boards at Antsmarching.org.

Can anyone else help him out here?

I'm pretty sure CloneCD or Nero can do exact copies... I got them both.

snoopdoug1 · Unread post by **snoopdoug1** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:05 am

TrippnBill686 wrote:
snoopdoug1 wrote:
TrippnBill686 wrote:
JimiThing wrote:thanks man. didn't even mess the options thing. I should have snooped around first.

so we aren't suppose to convert them to smaller files just to ease up the drive space on our own pc?

people how do trades and B&Ps... so those are illegal? Im new to this too
No, you are *never* supposed to convert them to smaller files (MP3s) - SHN is as small as they can get without losing quality.

Trades and B&P's are not illegal, as long as no money exchanges hands.
I guess you could convert them though.. you'd just lose some quality.
NO.... you do not convert them. Ever.

Ok... you don't do it... but YES it is POSSIBLE. Which is all I was trying to say!

JimiThing · Unread post by **JimiThing** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 10:11 am

thanks for the clearification

I have exact audio copy or something like that (EAC)

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 10:24 am

JimiThing wrote:
I have exact audio copy or something like that (EAC)

if EAC works with your drives, it's the absolute best thing to use for copying audio CDs. for some reason, i can't get mine to work, it hasn't since i installed windows XP last year.

taylordb · Unread post by **taylordb** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 10:32 am

EAC was the one I was thinking about...thanks guys.

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