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Unread post by dmfollower » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:29 am

fedelm wrote:Well you could try it and see if it works. I've got other cool translations.

LIke:

It gave! (if you just wanted something to happen, and you just did it, no matter what then something GAVE)

A: Why do you want to see the flecks, you know they suck!
B: It just gives, man.

Really simplifier of speech.

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Unread post by taparoo » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:03 pm

I remember how awesome it was hearing Shotgun for the first time...

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Unread post by AlpineValley » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:07 pm

taparoo wrote:I remember how awesome it was hearing Shotgun for the first time...
awesome!!!!
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Unread post by Nitro1515 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:07 pm

taparoo wrote:I remember how awesome it was hearing Shotgun for the first time...
I was big on the 8.25 performance for awhile but I got to say now that the first performance was still the best one

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Unread post by AlpineValley » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:09 pm

first time for sure!! what a great version
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Unread post by GSR » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:13 pm

Nitro1515 wrote:
taparoo wrote:I remember how awesome it was hearing Shotgun for the first time...
I was big on the 8.25 performance for awhile but I got to say now that the first performance was still the best one
Mmmmmhm.
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Unread post by Nitro1515 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:13 pm

The 1:20 mark when Leroi and Rashawn come in for the first time is best thing I've heard from this band in 2 years.

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Unread post by GSR » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:18 pm

For me, it's all about dave's voice/inflection, during lines like "rain raiiiiin..." and "broken by the glass, alwayyyyyyys."
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Unread post by Nitro1515 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:19 pm

Yeah I like that as well. I wish they kept going in this direction for the song, it just doesn't sound quite right with the other part

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Unread post by taparoo » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:30 pm

http://www.antsmarching.org/columns/col ... olumnid=40

pretty cool article about Dreaming Tree.

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Unread post by DJR » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:36 pm

interesting article indeed, although not theologically sound on a point or two:

"There is a catch; they’re not literally dying. They’re previous existence is what is dead. Now they’re both “falling.” Sure, falling can represent falling down from life, but these two are literally falling; falling from Heaven. This is why both “long to be, beneath (that) dreaming tree,” before they ate the fruit and became human. Both of their initial reactions (mentioned above) are anger, but in the end they just plead for a guiding voice."

"The Dreaming Tree tells the story of Adam and Eve’s fall to earth, and their anger and angst reciprocate throughout all humankind."

those i'd have to disagree with - "adam and eve" didn't literally fall from anywhere - IMO, eden and heaven aren't the same thing by any means

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Unread post by taparoo » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:52 pm

I see it more as a fall from grace, or loss of innocence.

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Unread post by tbillie41 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:20 pm

i thought the article was interesting overall, but i think jake needs to work on his lyrical interpretations.
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:34 pm

I always thought that it was about loss of innocence. And with that I thought it interesting that Dave kind of used a anti-romantic theme and mixed it with a very romantic object
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Unread post by Coldchillin » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:39 pm

Damn listening to the LWS all the way through, especially after a hiatus, is the best thing ever.
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