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Unread post by dmben89 » Thu May 18, 2006 1:12 pm

Isa 22:13 And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine. Let us eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we shall die.

Just thought you should know where its from in the bible.
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Unread post by taylordb » Thu May 18, 2006 1:14 pm

douge006 wrote:
emorokr12 wrote:
Jenns4Ever9501 wrote:
Hydro120 wrote:
proudestmonkey41 wrote:well my personal opinion (not that any of you care) is that god was created as a way to explain the unknown. greeks created zeus to explain lightning, but we now know that there isn't some bearded dude in the sky throwin lightning bolts at us. the more science evolves the less need people are having for god. i really like daves line from what you are (especially live when he yells it) "But you pray down on your knees motherf***ers, you dont tell god what you want".. sort of explaining that for the most part alot of people only pray when they need stuff.
That's a good point, but you also have to take into consideration the fact that Christianity has pretty much gone unaltered since it's birth. Roman and Greek Gods and Godesses are long since gone.

It basically comes down to one thing: You can't deny that Jesus was real. And that he died. The only thing you have to choose to believe is "Did He die for the salvation of all of mans' sins, and did God resurrect Him on the third day?"

I'd also like to point out that many religions claiming to be Christianity have severely skewed from the path for the sake of their own glory. Example, Catholicism. They make their own human traditions, claiming its part of the religion, and people basically worship the Pope. They teach people to pray to people other than Jesus, which is a complete contradiction of the Bible. Also, a lot of religions/people think that "being a good person" will ensure their acceptance to heaven. There is only one way. And it's not by just being a good person. I guess that's what makes Christianity so hard to accept. But Jesus himself did say that the road would be narrow and few would enter.
That is incorrect. It's a common misconception among non-Catholics. Ever ask a friend to pray for you, or if someone is sick, you ask your friends to pray for that person? That's what we do with the saints, and Mary, and everyone else. It's called intercession. We pray to no one but God, we're simply asking for the intercession of those who have already passed on and are now with God. Most non-Catholics don't get that. But it's the same thing as asking a friend to pray for you. That's all it is.







And we don't worship the Pope. :thumbsup:
And to add to what Jenns4ever said...the tradions of the Catholic church(mass and eucharist) are based on the last supper that Jesus had with the Apostles. Its not made up, its simply there to remind us of what happened on Good Friday more or less. I dont really know of what other tradtions you are thinking about that the Catholic church has made up. Catholics deffinately do not worship the pope. He's just the leader of the faith and is treated with high regard as being extremely devout and holy. And Jenns was completely right about saints, we dont pray to them; we ask them to help us pray because they are already with God in Heaven.

I think Hydro was just saying that catholics do somethings based on outside of the bible which is their tradition. I know you dont exactly worship the pope, but I dont think it says anything in the bible about asking saints for help, and mary is held really high in the church. My friend just got married and it was my first mass I went to and they dedicated their marriage to mary which was kind of weird for me. All in all it doesnt matter its on an individual basis, the one thing that sticks out to me about cathlocism its seems very works based, like if you dont go to church you wont to go heaven. This is just based off some of my friends i went to school with that had to be at mass every sunday.

But back to dave and what this topic was about, I think he was raised protestant / quaker, something like that so Im sure he knows his bible from his childhood. He uses a lot of different biblical references in his songs.
:thumbsup: Lets get back to that part of the discussion.
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Isa 22:13

Unread post by dmben89 » Thu May 18, 2006 1:22 pm

Isa 22:13 "And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine. Let us eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we shall die."

Just thought you should know where its from in the bible.
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Re: Isa 22:13

Unread post by Hydro120 » Thu May 18, 2006 1:33 pm

dmben89 wrote:Isa 22:13 "And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine. Let us eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we shall die."

Just thought you should know where its from in the bible.
Dude it's from like 6 places in the Bible. Just thought you should know.

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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Thu May 18, 2006 3:51 pm

STOP SEALING PPL's THREADS! go talk about it in nDMB, we have plenty of religious candy for all ya'll in there...
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