Dave and the dreaded RELIGION question

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:43 am

c_tietze wrote:Okay, so then by that logic that blurb you wrote is the definition of Dave's beliefs and the final say relative to all questions of what Dave's religious beliefs entail.

No need for speculation then, you've cleared things up quite nicely.

what? ok sooo we say hes agnostic, we have interviews of him saying this. i dont see much room for disagreement.

Katelyn · Unread post by **Katelyn** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:56 pm

I know a lot of it has been explained already, but there's one term that hasn't been mentioned.

Dave once called himself a soul-searcher. So...

i drank the water · Unread post by **i drank the water** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:38 pm

Dave once called himself a soul-searcher. So...

What is that implying?

Katelyn · Unread post by **Katelyn** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:54 pm

i drank the water wrote:
Dave once called himself a soul-searcher. So...
What is that implying?

IMO, a soul searcher is somebody who doesn't look for religion, but more for peace and understanding. In other words, I don't think soul searchers look for a God, but they focus more on the natural things, like beauty and nature. Maybe it could also mean that if, for some reason, a religion just felt right, they wouldn't reject it.

I consider myself a soul searcher. I am at peace within myself right now. When I was going to church and praying, and HAVING faith with my entire heart, I was never at peace. And now, I am. But if I walked into a church someday and it felt right, I wouldn't reject it.

i drank the water · Unread post by **i drank the water** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:30 pm

IMO, a soul searcher is somebody who doesn't look for religion, but more for peace and understanding. In other words, I don't think soul searchers look for a God, but they focus more on the natural things, like beauty and nature. Maybe it could also mean that if, for some reason, a religion just felt right, they wouldn't reject it.

I consider myself a soul searcher. I am at peace within myself right now. When I was going to church and praying, and HAVING faith with my entire heart, I was never at peace. And now, I am. But if I walked into a church someday and it felt right, I wouldn't reject it.

That totally makes sense, sorry i just didnt know anything of a "soul searcher" so im glad you mentioned it. thanks.

Katelyn · Unread post by **Katelyn** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:31 pm

i drank the water wrote:
IMO, a soul searcher is somebody who doesn't look for religion, but more for peace and understanding. In other words, I don't think soul searchers look for a God, but they focus more on the natural things, like beauty and nature. Maybe it could also mean that if, for some reason, a religion just felt right, they wouldn't reject it.

I consider myself a soul searcher. I am at peace within myself right now. When I was going to church and praying, and HAVING faith with my entire heart, I was never at peace. And now, I am. But if I walked into a church someday and it felt right, I wouldn't reject it.
That totally makes sense, sorry i just didnt know anything of a "soul searcher" so im glad you mentioned it. thanks.

Welcome much.

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:13 pm

i think soul searching is a form of agnosticism. i kiiiiiiinda do that. i just follow what feels right. some good stuff in all the religions yet they all damn each other to hell. so im just lookin for what works,

dmfollower · Unread post by **dmfollower** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:48 am

Nobody wants to be dammed to hell right?
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I once had a friend(religious) tell me that being agnostic is a real good way of pussing out of what life really is.

We are not friends anymore, i pretty much hate christians now.

c_tietze · Unread post by **c_tietze** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:19 am

filmdude100cms wrote:
c_tietze wrote:Okay, so then by that logic that blurb you wrote is the definition of Dave's beliefs and the final say relative to all questions of what Dave's religious beliefs entail.

No need for speculation then, you've cleared things up quite nicely.
what? ok sooo we say hes agnostic, we have interviews of him saying this. i dont see much room for disagreement.

Yeah, I came across a little snide, what I mean is, if Dave's said this then what's the point. I really could care less about his religious beliefs and these types of threads annoy me.

He's agnostic, let's just forget about it is what I'm trying to say.

littlefriend · Unread post by **littlefriend** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:22 pm

Actually, Dave seems a lot more buddhist than agnostic. One of the core beliefs in buddhism is acceptance of yourself as you are and to live in the now, or "be present," as he said in his speech there. Dave has always kind of struck me as more buddhist than agnostic anyway, regardless of his "official" stance.

i drank the water · Unread post by **i drank the water** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:13 am

Yeah, I came across a little snide, what I mean is, if Dave's said this then what's the point. I really could care less about his religious beliefs and these types of threads annoy me.

If you could care less and these threads annoy, then maybe just dont post or read them, its not hard. Not trying to be rude, but its not like whats daves favorite meal or something, its just a philosophical inquiry.

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:07 am

i drank the water wrote:Agnostic really, one of my really christian dmb fan friend said that he was like majorly christian, but i suppose what can you expect.

have your christian friend read my sig, and see if his ideas change on dave's faith

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:41 am

filmdude100cms wrote:odd, a have a "friend" cant stand her actually but she likes me so she fallows me freakishly, well shes a jesus freak and when i wear a dave shirt she yells "hes an athiest!" and it pisses me off, cause she doesnt know, and he isnt, theres a lot of spiritual references in his music, but oh well. yeah soooo some think he is a christian others an athiest. truly like i and others have said agnostic.

Ask her why the fuck he'd make a song about Jesus called "Christmas Song" if he was aethist?

Like he needed the material?

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:38 pm

charliemike wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:odd, a have a "friend" cant stand her actually but she likes me so she fallows me freakishly, well shes a jesus freak and when i wear a dave shirt she yells "hes an athiest!" and it pisses me off, cause she doesnt know, and he isnt, theres a lot of spiritual references in his music, but oh well. yeah soooo some think he is a christian others an athiest. truly like i and others have said agnostic.
Ask her why the fuck he'd make a song about Jesus called "Christmas Song" if he was aethist?

Like he needed the material?

thats basially what i do, just go "listen to his stuff youll see your wrong" cause its short and i dont want to talk to her much

seth_southerland · Unread post by **seth_southerland** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:20 am

well, i'm a christian, but i dont care what dave's beliefs are because i dont like him for them, i like him for his music, and the band's music, and its the same with tim or any other band ever, i like the music, not so much the people, although dave and the band and tim seem like pretty cool guys

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