**Big Whiskey and The GrooGrux King**

[littlefriend]

That's all fine and good. But if I pay money for a studio album (which I did, again. Stupid me.) then I expect something for my money. Everyday was mediocre, Stand Up was utter rubbish and this new one is looking more and more like it's going to fall squarely on the mediocre-to-rubbish part of the quality scale as well.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect quality music from a band who has a well documented history of putting out quality music. They're just fucking lazy in the studio now and they don't give a fuck what the fans want. Period.

[GSR]

A bad song is a bad song, no matter if it's played in the studio or in an ampitheater.

[Grachi]

I believe that there are only a couple of ways this band is going to put out an album that comes close to the quality of their pre-Everyday stuff:
1.) Dave takes back primary songwriting responsibilities.
2.) The band hires Steve Lillywhite to produce their next album.
3.) ???
4. )Profit.

Sadly, #4 is the only thing likely to happen despite the obvious lack of quality product.

I agree they need Lillywhite, they aren't disciplined enough on their own. And Busted Stuff doesn't count because all the songs were already written.

we all know that isn't going to happen though, so I don't know why people keep bringing up Lillywhite.

pretty sure everyone in the band wants to forget that experience, even though the music was so good.

[Banjobach]

I don't understand what went awry with Lillywhite. Was he too much of a perfectionist for the band?

[Nitro1515]

Squirm leaked apparently, this track by track shit is stupid, whoever is doing this just needs to leak the whole thing already

[Nitro1515]

I don't understand what went awry with Lillywhite. Was he too much of a perfectionist for the band?

That seems to be what the problem was.

[Nitro1515]

Well you can add Squirm to the list of songs that is very different sounding on first listen.

[Nitro1515]

Pretty revealing article in EW about them almost breaking up and about how different SU and ED were
http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/05/dave-matthews-b.html

[GSR]

We hadn’t put out an album for a while and the album that we did put out [2005's Mark Batson-produced Stand Up] wasn't us. I feel like it should have said "Dave Matthews Band featuring Mark Batson." There’s some great songs on [2002's Glen Ballard-produced] Everyday, but I think that should have said "Dave Matthews Band featuring Glen Ballard." I think we started to get lost right around towards the end of making the third album, [1998's] Before These Crowded Streets. The stuff after that, although there’s many good things about it, I think it was not our best work.

Well, that's saying something.

[Nitro1515]

I gotta say Squirm is actually pretty good after listening to it a few times. Its got a heavy middle eastern vibe to it. Sort of a Zeppelin feel and kinda sounds like Too High, Last Stop and What You Are mixed together.

[jsgksu]

From that article:

I think this is the band's best album. We have the spontaneity of our live performances but mixed in with some carefully, carefully, crafted music. I’m sure there are fans that will argue. But I don’t care what they say. They’re wrong.

[Nitro1515]

From that article:

I think this is the band's best album. We have the spontaneity of our live performances but mixed in with some carefully, carefully, crafted music. I’m sure there are fans that will argue. But I don’t care what they say. They’re wrong.

That kinda stuff upsets me. Let the music speak for itself if you believe its that good. Its like he is beginning to defend the album before its even released, which is exactly what they did for SU and we all know how that turned out.

[hofdaddy]

I don't. I was absent that day

[Nitro1515]

lucky you

[Easy E]

I downloaded realplayer for that?