A Little Album News (Rashawn's Blog)

[GSR]

What does stefan have to do with it?

[Kahn]

i am holding my breath on this album, i think they realized that stand up was not s steellar album.
i hope they realize that they should not put something out there that is not finished like SU

internet studder?

[Nitro1515]

I only have on concern and his name is Mark.
Other then that dmb has a really great way of making good music. I honestly think that SU would be another great "DMB" album if Batson stayed away like he should of. But for some reason they like him.
Also, people have been basically bashing Carter's drumming on SU. It is way not Carter like but still. I personally believe that Carter likes Batson and SU so much because he doesnt have to be playing nearly as much as he normally does, I would imagine he would get tired, and its like a rest for him during a show. Or maybe I'm just really dumb

A musician like Carter would never take a drastic drop in style like this. I wanna say that the drum-loop style came from other influences (i.e. batson, stefan). Even on Everyday Carter's "producer-directed" drumming (i say that b/c of the musical sheets in the studio) had his style and technique though it wasnt nearly up to par as almost anything else he has ever done). Carter is a world class drummer he wouldn't need a break and play shitty tunes.

And I hope the group have recognized the mistake of pushing carter out of the tunes (their worst albums, everyday and SU...carter's worst BY FAR). Let him do his thing and this album will fine with me. He is the base foundation of the "dmb sound". Put him back on in his old form and I personally garuntee you a much improved album, possilbly a Busted Stuff calibur album.

EDIT: thats about all I'm gonna say on the new album until its released cuz to me, it all depends on that. This new producer is in a much more musician-friendly field, so I hope he really takes control and tells batson to get him coffee, then carter and dmb will be back

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

[taparoo]

I only have on concern and his name is Mark.
Other then that dmb has a really great way of making good music. I honestly think that SU would be another great "DMB" album if Batson stayed away like he should of. But for some reason they like him.
Also, people have been basically bashing Carter's drumming on SU. It is way not Carter like but still. I personally believe that Carter likes Batson and SU so much because he doesnt have to be playing nearly as much as he normally does, I would imagine he would get tired, and its like a rest for him during a show. Or maybe I'm just really dumb

A musician like Carter would never take a drastic drop in style like this. I wanna say that the drum-loop style came from other influences (i.e. batson, stefan). Even on Everyday Carter's "producer-directed" drumming (i say that b/c of the musical sheets in the studio) had his style and technique though it wasnt nearly up to par as almost anything else he has ever done). Carter is a world class drummer he wouldn't need a break and play shitty tunes.

And I hope the group have recognized the mistake of pushing carter out of the tunes (their worst albums, everyday and SU...carter's worst BY FAR). Let him do his thing and this album will fine with me. He is the base foundation of the "dmb sound". Put him back on in his old form and I personally garuntee you a much improved album, possilbly a Busted Stuff calibur album.

EDIT: thats about all I'm gonna say on the new album until its released cuz to me, it all depends on that. This new producer is in a much more musician-friendly field, so I hope he really takes control and tells batson to get him coffee, then carter and dmb will be back

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

[SillyPutty]

I only have on concern and his name is Mark.
Other then that dmb has a really great way of making good music. I honestly think that SU would be another great "DMB" album if Batson stayed away like he should of. But for some reason they like him.
Also, people have been basically bashing Carter's drumming on SU. It is way not Carter like but still. I personally believe that Carter likes Batson and SU so much because he doesnt have to be playing nearly as much as he normally does, I would imagine he would get tired, and its like a rest for him during a show. Or maybe I'm just really dumb

A musician like Carter would never take a drastic drop in style like this. I wanna say that the drum-loop style came from other influences (i.e. batson, stefan). Even on Everyday Carter's "producer-directed" drumming (i say that b/c of the musical sheets in the studio) had his style and technique though it wasnt nearly up to par as almost anything else he has ever done). Carter is a world class drummer he wouldn't need a break and play shitty tunes.

And I hope the group have recognized the mistake of pushing carter out of the tunes (their worst albums, everyday and SU...carter's worst BY FAR). Let him do his thing and this album will fine with me. He is the base foundation of the "dmb sound". Put him back on in his old form and I personally garuntee you a much improved album, possilbly a Busted Stuff calibur album.

EDIT: thats about all I'm gonna say on the new album until its released cuz to me, it all depends on that. This new producer is in a much more musician-friendly field, so I hope he really takes control and tells batson to get him coffee, then carter and dmb will be back

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

That is right on Nitro...I couldn't agree more.

[philtheman]

I only have on concern and his name is Mark.
Other then that dmb has a really great way of making good music. I honestly think that SU would be another great "DMB" album if Batson stayed away like he should of. But for some reason they like him.
Also, people have been basically bashing Carter's drumming on SU. It is way not Carter like but still. I personally believe that Carter likes Batson and SU so much because he doesnt have to be playing nearly as much as he normally does, I would imagine he would get tired, and its like a rest for him during a show. Or maybe I'm just really dumb

A musician like Carter would never take a drastic drop in style like this. I wanna say that the drum-loop style came from other influences (i.e. batson, stefan). Even on Everyday Carter's "producer-directed" drumming (i say that b/c of the musical sheets in the studio) had his style and technique though it wasnt nearly up to par as almost anything else he has ever done). Carter is a world class drummer he wouldn't need a break and play shitty tunes.

And I hope the group have recognized the mistake of pushing carter out of the tunes (their worst albums, everyday and SU...carter's worst BY FAR). Let him do his thing and this album will fine with me. He is the base foundation of the "dmb sound". Put him back on in his old form and I personally garuntee you a much improved album, possilbly a Busted Stuff calibur album.

EDIT: thats about all I'm gonna say on the new album until its released cuz to me, it all depends on that. This new producer is in a much more musician-friendly field, so I hope he really takes control and tells batson to get him coffee, then carter and dmb will be back

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

That is right on Nitro...I couldn't agree more.

Very much agreed

I think I heard or read somewhere in an interview with carter that one of the beats for a song on the everyday album was the hardest drum beat that he has ever had to play. So to say that carter's drumming on everyday is not good would be a lie. Personally I really like the Everyday album. Its not bad, its different and the hardcore dave fans that have been with him since forever dont want to hear different, they want to hear the funk/jazz/pop/rock/alternative stuff that dmb got famous for. They are experimenting with different sounds because they know that they are one of the most famous bands out there and that their fans will stick with them. They're done making records solely for the fans, they want to make records that they want to make.

[dmfollower]

They are experimenting with different sounds because they know that they are one of the most famous bands out there and that their fans will stick with them. They're done making records solely for the fans, they want to make records that they want to make.

That is by far the most profound and perfect statement i've heard on these board in a while. Right on.
I don't think i'll ever hate or dislike any dmb material soley for the way the band started out themselves and told all the record companies they were too busy doing their own thing. Dmb rocks. I would have loved to live during the 60's but alteast i got to experience dmb.

[carter29]

I only have on concern and his name is Mark.
Other then that dmb has a really great way of making good music. I honestly think that SU would be another great "DMB" album if Batson stayed away like he should of. But for some reason they like him.
Also, people have been basically bashing Carter's drumming on SU. It is way not Carter like but still. I personally believe that Carter likes Batson and SU so much because he doesnt have to be playing nearly as much as he normally does, I would imagine he would get tired, and its like a rest for him during a show. Or maybe I'm just really dumb

A musician like Carter would never take a drastic drop in style like this. I wanna say that the drum-loop style came from other influences (i.e. batson, stefan). Even on Everyday Carter's "producer-directed" drumming (i say that b/c of the musical sheets in the studio) had his style and technique though it wasnt nearly up to par as almost anything else he has ever done). Carter is a world class drummer he wouldn't need a break and play shitty tunes.

And I hope the group have recognized the mistake of pushing carter out of the tunes (their worst albums, everyday and SU...carter's worst BY FAR). Let him do his thing and this album will fine with me. He is the base foundation of the "dmb sound". Put him back on in his old form and I personally garuntee you a much improved album, possilbly a Busted Stuff calibur album.

EDIT: thats about all I'm gonna say on the new album until its released cuz to me, it all depends on that. This new producer is in a much more musician-friendly field, so I hope he really takes control and tells batson to get him coffee, then carter and dmb will be back

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

That is right on Nitro...I couldn't agree more.

Very much agreed

I think I heard or read somewhere in an interview with carter that one of the beats for a song on the everyday album was the hardest drum beat that he has ever had to play. So to say that carter's drumming on everyday is not good would be a lie. Personally I really like the Everyday album. Its not bad, its different and the hardcore dave fans that have been with him since forever dont want to hear different, they want to hear the funk/jazz/pop/rock/alternative stuff that dmb got famous for. They are experimenting with different sounds because they know that they are one of the most famous bands out there and that their fans will stick with them. They're done making records solely for the fans, they want to make records that they want to make.

Yeah the rest of the band needs to step up, I just Carter was severely out of style on SU.

Oh and the drumtrack on everyday would be Fool to Think, the only solid drum track on there thats nearly bang-on to his style. I'm not saying I hate everyday, its a decent album (Ballard's production is quite obvious though) but its an eye sore along with SU in the dmb library.nd yes they can make whatever music they want, I just think cuz of dave's comments that he'll step it up on this album, and if Carter is in old form it will be a major face life IMO

What does stefan have to do with it?

He is really into hip-hop-esk music and I think that that may have contributed to the use of loops

[AlpineValley]

i am holding my breath on this album, i think they realized that stand up was not s steellar album.
i hope they realize that they should not put something out there that is not finished like SU

internet studder?

w w w what???? i d d d d didn't st st stutt utt utter???

[pacific34]

Rashawn was cool for one summer, but recording? this means he will probably be with the band for the upcoming tour. soon there's going to be 15 fucking people on stage. why can't bela join up for an entire summer?

[tbillie41]

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

I agree and disagree with you on this. I think, and think you'd agree, that all the best work by DMB has been made with that formula. The fleshed out guitar part from Dave that gets built on and made into a song.

I don't think that means that the band is required to stick to that formula to make good music. I don't care if they want to play other instruments, or if someone other than Dave wants to write lyrics. I don't think they did the best job of putting a new formula together on Stand Up, but that doesn't mean it will stay that way.

They can record to achieve the organic, live sound we all love and still step outside of what's normal for them.

[Nitro1515]

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

I agree and disagree with you on this. I think, and think you'd agree, that all the best work by DMB has been made with that formula. The fleshed out guitar part from Dave that gets built on and made into a song.

I don't think that means that the band is required to stick to that formula to make good music. I don't care if they want to play other instruments, or if someone other than Dave wants to write lyrics. I don't think they did the best job of putting a new formula together on Stand Up, but that doesn't mean it will stay that way.

They can record to achieve the organic, live sound we all love and still step outside of what's normal for them.

I see what your saying, I just don't think the other band members are good enough song writers to pull that off. They are without question very good musicians, but Dave is the only one with the talent to write a good song, I mean have you ever heard Boyd's solo album? Its an embarrassment.

And I have no problem with them trying something new. They did something different with BTCS and it turned out to be a masterpiece, but Stand Up was a failure plain and simple. I think they need to get back to their root sound for an album if they don't want to completely lose their old school fan base. Ticket sales were down last year and if they make another bad album that they push for a full summer tour, that might be it for a lot of people.

[tbillie41]

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

I agree and disagree with you on this. I think, and think you'd agree, that all the best work by DMB has been made with that formula. The fleshed out guitar part from Dave that gets built on and made into a song.

I don't think that means that the band is required to stick to that formula to make good music. I don't care if they want to play other instruments, or if someone other than Dave wants to write lyrics. I don't think they did the best job of putting a new formula together on Stand Up, but that doesn't mean it will stay that way.

They can record to achieve the organic, live sound we all love and still step outside of what's normal for them.

I see what your saying, I just don't think the other band members are good enough song writers to pull that off. They are without question very good musicians, but Dave is the only one with the talent to write a good song, I mean have you ever heard Boyd's solo album? Its an embarrassment.

And I have no problem with them trying something new. They did something different with BTCS and it turned out to be a masterpiece, but Stand Up was a failure plain and simple. I think they need to get back to their root sound for an album if they don't want to completely lose their old school fan base. Ticket sales were down last year and if they make another bad album that they push for a full summer tour, that might be it for a lot of people.

Yeah, I have heard Boyd's album. You're right. Lyrically it needs to be Dave, which probably means that the lyrics and guitar to go with it are him and then the band builds.

Stand Up was a failure and I can only hope they've learned from it and the new album is good. I hope it is, I don't want DMB to become the band that did nothing good after 1998.

[buffjam9011]

See to me the problem with SU wasn't just the fact that Carter sounded terrible, it was that the rest of the band was completely out of their element. Dave playing piano, Stefan playing electric guitar, Boyd writing songs, it was all just such a mess. They need that organic, live sound back in the studio. And, to me at least, it all starts with a creative, fully fleshed out guitar part from Dave.

I agree and disagree with you on this. I think, and think you'd agree, that all the best work by DMB has been made with that formula. The fleshed out guitar part from Dave that gets built on and made into a song.

I don't think that means that the band is required to stick to that formula to make good music. I don't care if they want to play other instruments, or if someone other than Dave wants to write lyrics. I don't think they did the best job of putting a new formula together on Stand Up, but that doesn't mean it will stay that way.

They can record to achieve the organic, live sound we all love and still step outside of what's normal for them.

I see what your saying, I just don't think the other band members are good enough song writers to pull that off. They are without question very good musicians, but Dave is the only one with the talent to write a good song, I mean have you ever heard Boyd's solo album? Its an embarrassment.

And I have no problem with them trying something new. They did something different with BTCS and it turned out to be a masterpiece, but Stand Up was a failure plain and simple. I think they need to get back to their root sound for an album if they don't want to completely lose their old school fan base. Ticket sales were down last year and if they make another bad album that they push for a full summer tour, that might be it for a lot of people.

Yeah, I have heard Boyd's album. You're right. Lyrically it needs to be Dave, which probably means that the lyrics and guitar to go with it are him and then the band builds.

Stand Up was a failure and I can only hope they've learned from it and the new album is good. I hope it is, I don't want DMB to become the band that did nothing good after 1998.

they still kick ass live. even their shitty songs are tolerable live (for me at least).

[MakoMako]

I've still got hope for this album. It seemed to me that this past summer had some new songs that showed that band was still trying something new, but still sticking to their roots a bit. The songs started to flesh out and grow as the summer went on.

If they keep the majority of the songs they played this summer (I'm omitting Can't Stop of course) I think this album will at least have a few solid songs on it. Which is still much better than the one or two that Stand Up had.

I also think that Dave really should stick to writing the songs. Stephan had some good ones back in the day, but Hunger For The Great Light has made me lose a bit of faith in his ability to put out a decent set of lyrics. Which I think they let happen this past summer. The lyrics had that nice little rambling that Dave is known for. I say rambling in a good way, but he does tend to have some lines get pretty out there.

Well, in all that, I hope I got my point across that I think this album will at least be better than Stand Up, perhaps better than Everyday, and maybe on caliber with some of their older stuff.