Dave and rolling stone magazine

[cart]

I don't trust Rolling Stone about anything and I am sad people buy that magazine.

[c_tietze]

Rolling Stone and it's writers are much like every A&R rep in the world, they do not know music, they have no appreciation of good music and they can't play an instrument so they write about it.

They ranked on Zep for years, they think Dylan is a god and they also piled Hootie and DMB in one category infamously.

I need not go on.

[Blake]

I don't trust Rolling Stone about anything and I am sad people buy that magazine.

[flandaneran]

dave should be at least number 50 on the guitarist list.
crash, before theses, and under the table, should def be on best album list
and give them at least crash for best song

[MarchOfTheRollyPollyCane]

rollingstone is just plain awful at rating things; they are way too close to the recording industry to have an opinion worth respecting.

as far as a greatest guitarist of all time I think he is definately underrated, not just by rolling stone, but most anywhere. As far as technical stuff, and difficult y hes no Hedges or Kottke so hes usually left off lists like that. But as far as overall (Cobain is often high; not hard stuff) he is overlooked. Atkins invented the wah wah but Hendrix revolutionized it and brought it mainstream. Id argue Dave did someting similiar to acoustic rhythm guitar. He changed the game and no one has done it quite like him. For every Nirvana there are 900 silverchairs. The record industry just hasn't even been able to find a decent dave copy cat (please spare me Mayer, Howie Day, ect... hardly comprable to what has followed other big acts). I think that its a tribute to the uniqueness of his guitar playing. While not terribly hard, no one can do it quite like him. The rest of the band has said it too a number of times. He just plays in a way no one else would.

[proudestmonkey41]

rollingstone is just plain awful at rating things; they are way too close to the recording industry to have an opinion worth respecting.

as far as a greatest guitarist of all time I think he is definately underrated, not just by rolling stone, but most anywhere. As far as technical stuff, and difficult y hes no Hedges or Kottke so hes usually left off lists like that. But as far as overall (Cobain is often high; not hard stuff) he is overlooked. Atkins invented the wah wah but Hendrix revolutionized it and brought it mainstream. Id argue Dave did someting similiar to acoustic rhythm guitar. He changed the game and no one has done it quite like him. For every Nirvana there are 900 silverchairs. The record industry just hasn't even been able to find a decent dave copy cat (please spare me Mayer, Howie Day, ect... hardly comprable to what has followed other big acts). I think that its a tribute to the uniqueness of his guitar playing. While not terribly hard, no one can do it quite like him. The rest of the band has said it too a number of times. He just plays in a way no one else would.

very nicely said

[DJR]

dave should be at least number 50 on the guitarist list.
crash, before theses, and under the table, should def be on best album list
and give them at least crash for best song

ok...why? i like DMB, alot - but crash is not in a catagory for best song, it never should be - and like we've said before, dave is a pretty good rhythm guitarist, but not on the level of tons of others that should be on that list

[jskrub]

I like it that dave isn't all mainstream. Its better he's more on the underground.

[Nitro1515]

I like it that dave isn't all mainstream. Its better he's more on the underground.

I know, its kinda like how Justin Timberlake is the face of indie rock

[jskrub]

I know, its kinda like how Justin Timberlake is the face of indie rock

Dave is basically mainstream to the people that know of him. In Chicago they rarely ever play dave on the radio and that's the way it has been since I could remember. Whens that last time you saw a dave music video on tv let alone music video's in general? The only video I remember seeing more than 4 times was Ants Marching (when I first started listening to DMB) back in '94/'95 and Stay in '99. There are still tons of people who have heard the name dmb but don't know the music. So does this constitute his mainstreamness?? It's still mostly word of mouth and the internet.

[Nitro1515]

I know, its kinda like how Justin Timberlake is the face of indie rock

Dave is basically mainstream to the people that know of him. In Chicago they rarely ever play dave on the radio and that's the way it has been since I could remember. Whens that last time you saw a dave music video on tv let alone music video's in general? There are still tons of people who have heard the name dmb but don't know the music. So does this constitute his mainstreamness?? It's still mostly word of mouth and the internet.

DMB is very mainstream. Ever since 1994 when they signed with RCA and released Under the Table they have been mainstream. They have performed on SNL, Leno, Letterman, Conan numerous times. They have been featured on 60 minutes. Whenever they release an album they usually put out 3 music videos that get played in regular rotation for a month. They are one of the top grossing live acts in the world. They are extremely mainstream.

[bassman462]

i would shoot rolling stone if dave matthews made the best guitarist list.

they gave kurt cobain #12 or something... i agree daves no clapton or hendrix, but hes much more original and more talented than many of the names on their list.

[proudestmonkey41]

not in canada.. the only time i have ever heard dmb that wasnt being played by me or my sister was in the grocery store i work at.. i hear satellite and old dirt hill once a month maybe. the only time i have ever heard a song on the radio was some online station i found called 202 dougFIR...and its an american station. although i must admit that he played the LS and luther college #41's and spoon.. soo he plays good tunes on it.

[a1075dd63aa12]

I know, its kinda like how Justin Timberlake is the face of indie rock

Dave is basically mainstream to the people that know of him. In Chicago they rarely ever play dave on the radio and that's the way it has been since I could remember. Whens that last time you saw a dave music video on tv let alone music video's in general? There are still tons of people who have heard the name dmb but don't know the music. So does this constitute his mainstreamness?? It's still mostly word of mouth and the internet.

DMB is very mainstream. Ever since 1994 when they signed with RCA and released Under the Table they have been mainstream. They have performed on SNL, Leno, Letterman, Conan numerous times. They have been featured on 60 minutes. Whenever they release an album they usually put out 3 music videos that get played in regular rotation for a month. They are one of the top grossing live acts in the world. They are extremely mainstream.

yea how the fuck do you become one of the highest grossing touring bands while not being mainstream? thats quite an mpressive feat

[proudestmonkey41]

I know, its kinda like how Justin Timberlake is the face of indie rock

Dave is basically mainstream to the people that know of him. In Chicago they rarely ever play dave on the radio and that's the way it has been since I could remember. Whens that last time you saw a dave music video on tv let alone music video's in general? There are still tons of people who have heard the name dmb but don't know the music. So does this constitute his mainstreamness?? It's still mostly word of mouth and the internet.

DMB is very mainstream. Ever since 1994 when they signed with RCA and released Under the Table they have been mainstream. They have performed on SNL, Leno, Letterman, Conan numerous times. They have been featured on 60 minutes. Whenever they release an album they usually put out 3 music videos that get played in regular rotation for a month. They are one of the top grossing live acts in the world. They are extremely mainstream.

yea how the fuck do you become one of the highest grossing touring bands while not being mainstream? thats quite an mpressive feat

after they played in toronto in 05 winter tour, there was an article in the paper briefly talking about the band. its headline was "the dave matthews cult comes to toronto" it basically just said that for the most part you are either a huge fan that knows all the songs all the words etc. or if you are not a fan you probably cant name a single song by them. now from my concert experiences i wouldnt say thats entirely true, there are definitly alot of part-time fans, but i think for the most part the writer was right, its either all or none. and that could explain how you become one of the top grossing acts without being mainstream??