politcal b*crap

[filmdude100cms]

Look.... education, celebrity, whatever has NOTHING to do with it. If you beleive in something enough then all you need is an outlet. Everyone on the Vote for Change tour is, shocker, a MUSICIAN. They are musicians because music is their outlet for what's going on in their life.

"cliches of the 60's" I'm sorry, if you love music at all then you'd hate that statement. Yeah, bob dylan...that cliche bastard *rolls eyes*

The point of the matter is that you don't want them talking politics PROBABLY because you don't agree, or you hate people talking politics in general.

"Political Bullshit"

Hmm, I am not one to really get into politics, i'd rather play guitar and have a beer. But it's IMPORTANT so maybe you should turn on c-span once in a while and stop worrying so much about the newest drunk co-eds on "the real world".

Just to reiterate my original point. They are MUSICIANS so let them do their thing, telling them not to be political is like telling a painter he can only use certain colors.

you are my favorite noob.

[Brock]

Look.... education, celebrity, whatever has NOTHING to do with it. If you beleive in something enough then all you need is an outlet. Everyone on the Vote for Change tour is, shocker, a MUSICIAN. They are musicians because music is their outlet for what's going on in their life.

"cliches of the 60's" I'm sorry, if you love music at all then you'd hate that statement. Yeah, bob dylan...that cliche bastard *rolls eyes*

The point of the matter is that you don't want them talking politics PROBABLY because you don't agree, or you hate people talking politics in general.

"Political Bullshit"

Hmm, I am not one to really get into politics, i'd rather play guitar and have a beer. But it's IMPORTANT so maybe you should turn on c-span once in a while and stop worrying so much about the newest drunk co-eds on "the real world".

Just to reiterate my original point. They are MUSICIANS so let them do their thing, telling them not to be political is like telling a painter he can only use certain colors.

you are my favorite noob.

Been here longer than you.

Just because they have a low postcount doesn't mean they're a noob, it just means they're not a whore

[json22]

I am on the same page YKN and rekeenr are on play the damn concert and move on. I can watch all this preachy shit at the house. You are right though some of these followers believe in dave and other artists so much that they cannot think for themselves, or at least thats the way it seems to me. could be wrong though.

[filmdude100cms]

Look.... education, celebrity, whatever has NOTHING to do with it. If you beleive in something enough then all you need is an outlet. Everyone on the Vote for Change tour is, shocker, a MUSICIAN. They are musicians because music is their outlet for what's going on in their life.

"cliches of the 60's" I'm sorry, if you love music at all then you'd hate that statement. Yeah, bob dylan...that cliche bastard *rolls eyes*

The point of the matter is that you don't want them talking politics PROBABLY because you don't agree, or you hate people talking politics in general.

"Political Bullshit"

Hmm, I am not one to really get into politics, i'd rather play guitar and have a beer. But it's IMPORTANT so maybe you should turn on c-span once in a while and stop worrying so much about the newest drunk co-eds on "the real world".

Just to reiterate my original point. They are MUSICIANS so let them do their thing, telling them not to be political is like telling a painter he can only use certain colors.

you are my favorite noob.

Been here longer than you.

Just because they have a low postcount doesn't mean they're a noob, it just means they're not a whore

haha, i read the date, but thought it said sometihn like august 2004.

[thedirte]

Theres nothing wrong with musicians crossing paths with politics, but there is something wrong with them doing it on their fans time and money.

[Matty Boom]

if you disagree with what dave is pushing in the VFC tour so much...just don't go...you're right, it's your money and your time...so keep both and stay home

also, at the show i went to, dave didn't say anything to encourage people to vote for either candidate, he just encouraged people to go out and vote

and, no one seems to mind when celebrities speak out against aids or something that they think is worthy...what's the big difference

[Raif2032]

lol, thanks filmdude and trippnbill....I think.

"Thedirte"

Theres nothing wrong with musicians crossing paths with politics, but there is something wrong with them doing it on their fans time and money.

I just don't think that makes any sense...when did anyone famous ever promise to work around YOUR schedule? If you don't want to waste your money then don't buy the Vote for change cd. If you don't want to waste your time then, uh, stay away from the sundance channel...

heh, I think i've said enough at this point...not going to beat a dead horse

[mbgreen]

I have no sympathy for anyone who purchases a ticket to a concert series entitled "vote for change" and then bitches about politics being included in the lineup.

I agree that when you pay to see music, you should see music. But if you really can't get over a 30 second speech in the middle of a 2+ hour show, you're a little girl.

[hcole]

yes, it is. so we aren't allowed to have an opinion? why should i not listen to my favorite musician? or turn off my favorite tv channel?

I think a better question would be why should your favorite musician or tv channel be required to cater to you.

Why doesn't everyone wash the sand out of their vag's and get real. The VFC show I went to didn't have any "political preaching" at all. Just a brief encouragement to go out and vote. Even if they did get preachy, what the hell were you expecting, It was a concert used to raise money for a Political Action Commitee that supports Kerry.

[Appfro]

I think while they have every right to voice their opinions, i read an article by a polisci expert that said people are more likely to change their opinion about an artist than they are about the subject they are talking about. it's kind of a preach to the choir effect where you're only listeners are the ones that already agree w/ you.

[Matty Boom]

maybe so...but the ones that were affected more than anyone, i suspect, are the ones that didn't have an opinion to begin with...and whether or not they agree with dave now...i bet some of them at least have an opinion now

[Appfro]

true

[mlb1399]

I am a republican and went to the vote for change tour. I was extremely surprised how non political it really was. I was kind of worried that it would be 80% music/20% Kerry talk. It was more like 99.5 music/.05(go out and vote talk) The only person that really got into politics was Neil Young. The way Dave handled himself gave me a whole lot more respect than I had before.

Dave basically said, "y'all no why we're here. You know who I'm voting for. The important thing is that you go out and vote. If you don't know who to vote, vote for the guy I'm voting for. If you are voting for the other guy I wish you the best of luck, and wish me the best of luck. Now let's do what we came here to do and play some music."

Never once did he mention Kerry's name which I thougt was very cool. He was just stressing how important it is to vote, which I don't see anything wrong with that. Especially since a lot of the people in the audience were younger and don't usually vote.

Also, I could see your disappointment if it were just a regular concert then maybe they shouldn't be expressing their political views so hard. But it is vote for change, which is obviously very political.

[c_tietze]

Is it me or does it seem just a little shitty when you have these multimillion dollar artist running around the country talking all this political bullshit with concerts. If you lived in a country where you have made millions and life is probably good, why not sit back and shut the hell up. although I know this is a free speech country but this seems a little old. Just like the cliches of the sixties. I am one hell of a dave fan but my political views differ a little but i still dont let that come between music and politics. This seems like a line crossed to often. Maybe I am wrong just wanted to get some other opinions on this. (that does not mean post in here and running off at the mouth with cockiness, I just wanted to get some serious opinions,

I think the point is to encourage people, especially younger people to vote. Although Dave and many other artists have made it clear that they favor a certain candidate, it's well within their rights and I honestly would use my "star power" (if I had any) to sway as many voters as I could to my side of the fence.

[Ando]

Is it me or does it seem just a little shitty when you have these multimillion dollar artist running around the country talking all this political bullshit with concerts. If you lived in a country where you have made millions and life is probably good, why not sit back and shut the hell up. although I know this is a free speech country but this seems a little old. Just like the cliches of the sixties. I am one hell of a dave fan but my political views differ a little but i still dont let that come between music and politics. This seems like a line crossed to often. Maybe I am wrong just wanted to get some other opinions on this. (that does not mean post in here and running off at the mouth with cockiness, I just wanted to get some serious opinions,

I think he just needs to turn down his bullhorn a little bit. ESPECIALLY after they dumped the shit into the river.

horseshit.

1. yet to proove it was dmb

2. did you go to any of the VFC concerts? Dave was the smoothest one there. His message was mainly "get out and vote"

DMB registered over 14,000 new voters this year. THat's a record. Tell me about making good use of your popularity. To tell him to 'tone down the bullhorn" would be like discouraging new voters to register. Its always republicans who are bitching about it, because they know that it hurts ol' GW.