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Unread post by ericwormann » Mon May 03, 2004 8:55 pm

I don't think the band's problem was that people would download the prereleased material. I think their problem was that people were getting material that was not finished, not good quality, and therefore not representative of what the band would put out. I've heard Dave describing it as if you started painting a picture, but half way through someone stole it and put it in a museum. Then people started critiquing a painting that wasn't finished. That would piss me off too.

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Unread post by jayy » Mon May 03, 2004 9:18 pm

You know what's really sad? When a fan (yours truly) buys an album and can't even rip it to his hard drive in MP3 format. The album in question? Some Devil. The version they sell here (Lebanon) and supposedly in Europe also, has extremely tough copy protection built in (Cactus Data Shield 200)
What you get, to cut a long story short, is a CD with the audio sectors intentionally damaged in such a way that a DATA CD drive (the CDROMs in PCs) can't read the audio part, but an audio CD player can (because of different laser frequencies which don't dig deep enough to confront the errors) The data track which can be read on a PC contains a media player which reads hidden, encrypted WMA files. The CD has to be in the drive to access this feature.
So basically, anti-piracy measures are driving me back to Kazaa, for the convenience of listening to the tracks on my PC or MP3 player.
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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Mon May 03, 2004 9:38 pm

i still dont like listenin to not finished stuff, if this had been somethin like crash where most of the sogns had be played for years, thatd be one thing, but tihs is all material writen in the last few months. I no id hate people to judge stuff before its out, and more havin the album almost be like "well heres a hardcopy for u guys." if yall wanna dl them, oK, but i just dont like it.

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Unread post by Thomas » Mon May 03, 2004 10:40 pm

jayy wrote:You know what's really sad? When a fan (yours truly) buys an album and can't even rip it to his hard drive in MP3 format. The album in question? Some Devil. The version they sell here (Lebanon) and supposedly in Europe also, has extremely tough copy protection built in (Cactus Data Shield 200)
What you get, to cut a long story short, is a CD with the audio sectors intentionally damaged in such a way that a DATA CD drive (the CDROMs in PCs) can't read the audio part, but an audio CD player can (because of different laser frequencies which don't dig deep enough to confront the errors) The data track which can be read on a PC contains a media player which reads hidden, encrypted WMA files. The CD has to be in the drive to access this feature.
So basically, anti-piracy measures are driving me back to Kazaa, for the convenience of listening to the tracks on my PC or MP3 player.
:roll:
haha, that's a great idea :)

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Unread post by Duffman » Tue May 04, 2004 10:36 am

i am borrowing the sopranos dvd's from my brother and the copy protection won't even let me play the dvds on my computer. i have to rip it onto my hard drive to watch it. maybe i'll upload the dvds just to spite them :roll:
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