Audio DL: DMB 3/23/1993

Coldchillin · Unread post by **Coldchillin** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:40 pm

Seriously. I can't hear any difference personally, and for the size difference MP3/AAC is so much better.

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:53 pm

there is a big difference and it is noticeable. especially with classical/opera music. i have some classical cd's on my ipod that i had to go back and re-rip them into the lossless filetype because the mp3 sounded like complete shit.

fede · Unread post by **fede** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:56 pm

Well but that's something totattly different, this is DMB, not Mozart...

Fede

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:56 pm

when mp3's are shared you run the HUGE risk of people sharing transcoded files.

(ie: someone downloads a show in mp3, burns it to cd, lends it to a friend, friend rips in shn, then throws up a b&p offer for a show that he thinks is in lossless quality)

it ruins the trading pool.

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:56 pm

fedelm wrote:Well but that's something totattly different, this is DMB, not Mozart...

Fede

it shouldnt matter. you're still losing frequencies when you decode to mp3

checkii · Unread post by **checkii** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:05 pm

my point is, who the fuck knows which recorded version of that 1994 show you are distributing, and is some taper going to get butt hurt that some show that he may or may not have recorded over a decade ago is in mp3 format?

like i said, fucking stupid.

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:24 pm

checkii wrote:my point is, who the fuck knows which recorded version of that 1994 show you are distributing, and is some taper going to get butt hurt that some show that he may or may not have recorded over a decade ago is in mp3 format?

like i said, fucking stupid.

the taper's feelings are of no concern to me on this subject. the trading pool should be clean and of the highest quality and there's a reason that the tapers write "**DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3**" on every text file they write.

checkii · Unread post by **checkii** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:49 pm

btbesong wrote:
checkii wrote:my point is, who the fuck knows which recorded version of that 1994 show you are distributing, and is some taper going to get butt hurt that some show that he may or may not have recorded over a decade ago is in mp3 format?

like i said, fucking stupid.
the taper's feelings are of no concern to me on this subject. the trading pool should be clean and of the highest quality and there's a reason that the tapers write "**DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3**" on every text file they write.

no one is makign you download mp3.

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:21 pm

checkii wrote:
btbesong wrote:
checkii wrote:my point is, who the fuck knows which recorded version of that 1994 show you are distributing, and is some taper going to get butt hurt that some show that he may or may not have recorded over a decade ago is in mp3 format?

like i said, fucking stupid.
the taper's feelings are of no concern to me on this subject. the trading pool should be clean and of the highest quality and there's a reason that the tapers write "**DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3**" on every text file they write.
no one is makign you download mp3.

thats not the issue. the issue is other people downloading mp3's and ruining the quality of shows for everyone else. the issue is Transcoded files being passed off as lossless when they're not.

checkii · Unread post by **checkii** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:23 pm

how does that effect people who only trade in lossless?

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:23 pm

checks not gonna drop this one, hes very adament about this topic :lol:

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:34 pm

checkii wrote:how does that effect people who only trade in lossless?

i posted this above....

btbesong wrote:when mp3's are shared you run the HUGE risk of people sharing transcoded files.

(ie: someone downloads a show in mp3, burns it to cd, lends it to a friend, friend rips in shn, then throws up a b&p offer for a show that he thinks is in lossless quality)

it ruins the trading pool.

Another example: I have a copy of 3-29-03 in flac (the originals), another guy has the same show in flac but it sounds like someone wiped their ass with it. its muddy sounding and the highs are distorted. how can this be? its the same taper.

guy #2's copy sounds bad because its been transcoded multiple times and shared by mp3 then burned to disc, then ripped, then back to mp3. not by the same person, but because guy #2's source traded mp3 discs with friends and that got passed on, and that got passed on, and that got passed on, etc.

do you see what im saying?

littlefriend · Unread post by **littlefriend** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:47 pm

btbesong wrote:
checkii wrote:how does that effect people who only trade in lossless?
i posted this above....

btbesong wrote:when mp3's are shared you run the HUGE risk of people sharing transcoded files.

(ie: someone downloads a show in mp3, burns it to cd, lends it to a friend, friend rips in shn, then throws up a b&p offer for a show that he thinks is in lossless quality)

it ruins the trading pool.
Another example: I have a copy of 3-29-03 in flac (the originals), another guy has the same show in flac but it sounds like someone wiped their ass with it. its muddy sounding and the highs are distorted. how can this be? its the same taper.

guy #2's copy sounds bad because its been transcoded multiple times and shared by mp3 then burned to disc, then ripped, then back to mp3. not by the same person, but because guy #2's source traded mp3 discs with friends and that got passed on, and that got passed on, and that got passed on, etc.

do you see what im saying?

I agree with this 100%. I don't have a problem keeping shows in mp3 format for my personal use, but I only ever trade/share/burn lossless. And it does irritate me when I expect a lossless and get crappy show. I can only imagine how a taper feels after all his work gets muddied up like that.

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:06 pm

Danny wrote this a while back, but it applies just as well....

taylordb wrote:My 2 cents...and I know I am repeating some of what has already been said, but here goes:

Converting to mp3 is for your personal use only, PERIOD. Those mp3 files should NOT go beyond your possesion....no exceptions.

If you put mp3 files in your getfile you have just polluted the trading pool...plain and simple. You have no control over where a mp3 file goes once you let it go...even if you give it to your best friend.

mp3 is a lossy format. If you want to know what that means, just try to download a copy of #40 from Yoshi's off of kazza, limewire or others and see what you get....probably the best version of #40 ever done (IMHO) yet it sounds like shit from all the static, etc. that comes from the continual trading of mp3.

Then mp3's get converted to wav...then to shn...and now nobody knows what the hell is circulating. Is that what you really want? I sure don't. I want to know that when I trade/b&p/download a show, I am getting the highest quality version of that show possible....like it was when it was taped.

The tapers specifically put it in the info file for each show NOT to convert to mp3. They are not doing this to be dicks, they are doing this because they want people generations down the line to enjoy the quality as it was originally taped. These tapers put their shows out to everyone for free...the ONLY thing they ask in return is to not decode to mp3. They are not asking for much are they? Please respect them.

mp3's are not to be traded on these boards as matty and brock said.

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