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Re: Halloween

Unread post by HumbleMonkey » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:00 pm

smedley wrote:
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aaronmeyer wrote:Does anyone know the meaning behind the song Halloween? It is one of my favorties and I have been looking, but don't trust what I read on some non dmb sites.
i'm not sure, but....

dave's old girlfriend (Julia?) denied him i believe 3 times when he proposed to her, so i guess they broke up and dave wrote a song about his feelings for her. its called halloween because that was the day that either they meet, or the day that they broke up.

someone please correct me
Julia Grey was her name. yeah he proposed a bunch of times and was turned down every time. its said to be #2 in the series of ill back you up, halloween, grey street. all dealing with julia. halloween is just all of the frustration, sadness and anger dave had.

just to add a little smedley :wink:
isn't pay for what you get about her too? it makes sense :)
not sure, i think recently is though

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Re: Halloween

Unread post by aaronmeyer » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:04 pm

smedley wrote:
HumbleMonkey wrote:
smedley wrote:
aaronmeyer wrote:Does anyone know the meaning behind the song Halloween? It is one of my favorties and I have been looking, but don't trust what I read on some non dmb sites.
i'm not sure, but....

dave's old girlfriend (Julia?) denied him i believe 3 times when he proposed to her, so i guess they broke up and dave wrote a song about his feelings for her. its called halloween because that was the day that either they meet, or the day that they broke up.

someone please correct me
Julia Grey was her name. yeah he proposed a bunch of times and was turned down every time. its said to be #2 in the series of ill back you up, halloween, grey street. all dealing with julia. halloween is just all of the frustration, sadness and anger dave had.

just to add a little smedley :wink:
isn't pay for what you get about her too? it makes sense :)
That makes sense when listening to the lyrics. She must be kicking her self now for doing what she did.

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Re: Halloween

Unread post by smedley » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:10 pm

aaronmeyer wrote:
smedley wrote:
HumbleMonkey wrote:
smedley wrote:
aaronmeyer wrote:Does anyone know the meaning behind the song Halloween? It is one of my favorties and I have been looking, but don't trust what I read on some non dmb sites.
i'm not sure, but....

dave's old girlfriend (Julia?) denied him i believe 3 times when he proposed to her, so i guess they broke up and dave wrote a song about his feelings for her. its called halloween because that was the day that either they meet, or the day that they broke up.

someone please correct me
Julia Grey was her name. yeah he proposed a bunch of times and was turned down every time. its said to be #2 in the series of ill back you up, halloween, grey street. all dealing with julia. halloween is just all of the frustration, sadness and anger dave had.

just to add a little smedley :wink:
isn't pay for what you get about her too? it makes sense :)
That makes sense when listening to the lyrics. She must be kicking her self now for doing what she did.
I couldn't imagine what she's thinking.

I think I read/heard somewhere that she went insane?(Hence "Grey Street") I might be mistaken.
-Kurt

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Re: Halloween

Unread post by HumbleMonkey » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:25 pm

smedley wrote:
aaronmeyer wrote:
smedley wrote:
HumbleMonkey wrote:
smedley wrote:
aaronmeyer wrote:Does anyone know the meaning behind the song Halloween? It is one of my favorties and I have been looking, but don't trust what I read on some non dmb sites.
i'm not sure, but....

dave's old girlfriend (Julia?) denied him i believe 3 times when he proposed to her, so i guess they broke up and dave wrote a song about his feelings for her. its called halloween because that was the day that either they meet, or the day that they broke up.

someone please correct me
Julia Grey was her name. yeah he proposed a bunch of times and was turned down every time. its said to be #2 in the series of ill back you up, halloween, grey street. all dealing with julia. halloween is just all of the frustration, sadness and anger dave had.

just to add a little smedley :wink:
isn't pay for what you get about her too? it makes sense :)
That makes sense when listening to the lyrics. She must be kicking her self now for doing what she did.
I couldn't imagine what she's thinking.

I think I read/heard somewhere that she went insane?(Hence "Grey Street") I might be mistaken.
possible, i read grey street is kinda about confusion and why she is how she is

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My Input on some songs

Unread post by ForgottenThings » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:44 pm

Ok check this out.

i have analyzed the hell out of the song "The Stone" and check this out (i bet it's something you missed)

In the beginning "Ive this creeping..." Dave sounds timid and unsure of himself

In the next verse "Unholy day..." he is more comfortable and agreesive with his singing, then the sweet realease comes

"I was just wondering if you'd come along"

he sings the chorus very sweet and uplifting then..

BAM "IF NOT I"LL GO"

and back to the agressive singing... now taken out of context

Timid
Comfortable
Asking to marry
Angry
Asking to marry
Angry
Asking to marry
Angry

then at the very end, before the orchestra he ends on "I was just wondering if you'd come along"

the last line shows acceptance of being denied and almost a walking off into the sunset giving up.... pretty creepy the parralells(sp?) of not only the lyrics BUT style of singing to a relationship and particularly, his.


note: yes i was high :P

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the song "Oh"

Unread post by ForgottenThings » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:53 pm

pretty obvious but since you are trying to do so much (analyzing all of his songs) you might forget the obvious. "Oh" is about his sister who was murdered, and actually a lot of Some Devil deals with death and getting older. Quote from the cd booklet "I think im losing my hair", etc. And aside from that, alot of the songs are about looking back with regret.

("lie in our graves", Dave. You said it best; it will all be alright)

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Re: My Input on some songs

Unread post by smedley » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:54 pm

ForgottenThings wrote:Ok check this out.

i have analyzed the hell out of the song "The Stone" and check this out (i bet it's something you missed)

In the beginning "Ive this creeping..." Dave sounds timid and unsure of himself

In the next verse "Unholy day..." he is more comfortable and agreesive with his singing, then the sweet realease comes

"I was just wondering if you'd come along"

he sings the chorus very sweet and uplifting then..

BAM "IF NOT I"LL GO"

and back to the agressive singing... now taken out of context

Timid
Comfortable
Asking to marry
Angry
Asking to marry
Angry
Asking to marry
Angry

then at the very end, before the orchestra he ends on "I was just wondering if you'd come along"

the last line shows acceptance of being denied and almost a walking off into the sunset giving up.... pretty creepy the parralells(sp?) of not only the lyrics BUT style of singing to a relationship and particularly, his.


note: yes i was high :P
sweet, i always thought of the ending kind of like being denied and having like your world fall apart, "tell me you will...". it kind of has that like "out of body" experience. I can't really explain it well, but I hope you get it.
-Kurt

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Re: the song "Oh"

Unread post by smedley » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:56 pm

ForgottenThings wrote:pretty obvious but since you are trying to do so much (analyzing all of his songs) you might forget the obvious. "Oh" is about his sister who was murdered, and actually a lot of Some Devil deals with death and getting older. Quote from the cd booklet "I think im losing my hair", etc. And aside from that, alot of the songs are about looking back with regret.

("lie in our graves", Dave. You said it best; it will all be alright)
i've read somewhere, or heard, that dave wrote "Oh" in the point of view of an old man who has lost his wife.
-Kurt

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Unread post by ForgottenThings » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:58 pm

smedley wrote:
ForgottenThings wrote:pretty obvious but since you are trying to do so much (analyzing all of his songs) you might forget the obvious. "Oh" is about his sister who was murdered, and actually a lot of Some Devil deals with death and getting older. Quote from the cd booklet "I think im losing my hair", etc. And aside from that, alot of the songs are about looking back with regret.

("lie in our graves", Dave. You said it best; it will all be alright)
i've read somewhere, or heard, that dave wrote "Oh" in the point of view of an old man who has lost his wife.
In reply to smedly: That may be true, i did not research the song before i so factually said what it was about (im good at acting like i know it all, heh :P) but it very well may be. One thing to keep in mind though he has only once publicly acknowledged his sisters death, so he probably wouldnt be too forth coming if it were.

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Unread post by smedley » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:05 pm

ForgottenThings wrote:
smedley wrote:
ForgottenThings wrote:pretty obvious but since you are trying to do so much (analyzing all of his songs) you might forget the obvious. "Oh" is about his sister who was murdered, and actually a lot of Some Devil deals with death and getting older. Quote from the cd booklet "I think im losing my hair", etc. And aside from that, alot of the songs are about looking back with regret.

("lie in our graves", Dave. You said it best; it will all be alright)
i've read somewhere, or heard, that dave wrote "Oh" in the point of view of an old man who has lost his wife.
In reply to smedly: That may be true, i did not research the song before i so factually said what it was about (im good at acting like i know it all, heh :P) but it very well may be. One thing to keep in mind though he has only once publicly acknowledged his sisters death, so he probably wouldnt be too forth coming if it were.
i wasn't trying to say you knew it all man, i was just simply adding to your post :) . I'm gonna find out where I heard this though and get back to you/this thread.
-Kurt

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Unread post by ForgottenThings » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:08 pm

haha, no no, i was saying that when you read mine i sound 100% sure, but i really wasnt. I trust you over me on this one because this was just my opinion but i stated it as fact.

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Unread post by smedley » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:13 pm

it's alright man, this thread is about analyzing after all

and welcome to the boards
-Kurt

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Re: the song "Oh"

Unread post by jellyfish » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:16 pm

ForgottenThings wrote:pretty obvious but since you are trying to do so much (analyzing all of his songs) you might forget the obvious. "Oh" is about his sister who was murdered, and actually a lot of Some Devil deals with death and getting older. Quote from the cd booklet "I think im losing my hair", etc. And aside from that, alot of the songs are about looking back with regret.

("lie in our graves", Dave. You said it best; it will all be alright)
Is this verified? It seems applicable to anyone who has died in his life.

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Unread post by ForgottenThings » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:28 pm

read up jason ^^^^

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Unread post by jellyfish » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:33 pm

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