Frustrated w/ this JM/DM shit! any1 with me

DreaminBassMunky · Unread post by **DreaminBassMunky** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:34 am

Trippin Hillbilly wrote:
gcom007 wrote:Mayer smokes Dave on guitar...Dave doesn't hold a candle to Mayer.

Mayer's lyrics flow better and are very good, subject matter may be young but there's no reason to actually knock the songs he puts together.

Dela kills Stefan on bass...always finds a killer groove to ride.

Michael Chaves is a great guitarist that does a heck of a lot better job in filling out the sound than hacks like Boyd who devestate songs singlehandedly.

Carter owns anyone, no one is arguing this.

Both of their voices are pretty bad when it really comes down to it.

I don't see the argument here...I've come to two conclusions about these two guys though.

John Mayer is overrated right now, but he still has a chance to really prove something as he simply has more talent than just about anyone that's really in the spotlight today, he just has to get out there and do it though.

Dave Matthews is washed up...he's been musically washed up since the early days when he wrote the UTTAD/Crash songs and lyrically washed up since BTCS. Never though was he as great as many people make him out to be. Bad? Absolutely not, but slightly more or less, he is just another guy writing songs...really not a great and really overrated. That's the bottom line. He may mean a lot to you, but in terms of the rest of the musical world, that is exactly where it stands.
So you're speaking for the whole musical world?? Do you know every musician?
How can you even say Dave's voice is pretty bad? I mean really, listen to yourself.

It seems like you believe that everything you say should be written in stone.
Would it hurt to add a couple of IMO's to your posts.
At least that way you wouldn't come across as so much of an ass..

This thread sucks ass

I agree Hillybilly. Personally I can see where you're coming from, but in many ways I don't agree with you.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:34 pm

gcom007 wrote:Mayer smokes Dave on guitar...Dave doesn't hold a candle to Mayer.

Mayer's lyrics flow better and are very good, subject matter may be young but there's no reason to actually knock the songs he puts together.

Dela kills Stefan on bass...always finds a killer groove to ride.

Michael Chaves is a great guitarist that does a heck of a lot better job in filling out the sound than hacks like Boyd who devestate songs singlehandedly.

Carter owns anyone, no one is arguing this.

Both of their voices are pretty bad when it really comes down to it.

I don't see the argument here...I've come to two conclusions about these two guys though.

John Mayer is overrated right now, but he still has a chance to really prove something as he simply has more talent than just about anyone that's really in the spotlight today, he just has to get out there and do it though.

Dave Matthews is washed up...he's been musically washed up since the early days when he wrote the UTTAD/Crash songs and lyrically washed up since BTCS. Never though was he as great as many people make him out to be. Bad? Absolutely not, but slightly more or less, he is just another guy writing songs...really not a great and really overrated. That's the bottom line. He may mean a lot to you, but in terms of the rest of the musical world, that is exactly where it stands.

I know this is a real stupid question but what about timmy against John?
eat, drink, and be marry

dustin · Unread post by **dustin** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:37 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
gcom007 wrote:Mayer smokes Dave on guitar...Dave doesn't hold a candle to Mayer.

Mayer's lyrics flow better and are very good, subject matter may be young but there's no reason to actually knock the songs he puts together.

Dela kills Stefan on bass...always finds a killer groove to ride.

Michael Chaves is a great guitarist that does a heck of a lot better job in filling out the sound than hacks like Boyd who devestate songs singlehandedly.

Carter owns anyone, no one is arguing this.

Both of their voices are pretty bad when it really comes down to it.

I don't see the argument here...I've come to two conclusions about these two guys though.

John Mayer is overrated right now, but he still has a chance to really prove something as he simply has more talent than just about anyone that's really in the spotlight today, he just has to get out there and do it though.

Dave Matthews is washed up...he's been musically washed up since the early days when he wrote the UTTAD/Crash songs and lyrically washed up since BTCS. Never though was he as great as many people make him out to be. Bad? Absolutely not, but slightly more or less, he is just another guy writing songs...really not a great and really overrated. That's the bottom line. He may mean a lot to you, but in terms of the rest of the musical world, that is exactly where it stands.
I know this is a real stupid question but what about timmy against John?
eat, drink, and be marry

i think mayer could take him on anyday.... in singing:)

The Man of The Hour · Unread post by **The Man of The Hour** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:50 pm

Dave is a lyrical genius. Dave is also a melodic genius. Just two of the hundred reasons I put him on the top of my scale..

Forget about skill, forget about listening to music because it is complex. The very rythyms and melodies that Dave's comes up with is the reason I listen to him. There are many guitar players better than Mayer and Dave, but to come up with melodies that come even close to Dave's is a gift that takes more than just pure knowledge. Called Creativity. And a little bit of musical taste on my part.

acidrain · Unread post by **acidrain** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:40 pm

Someone needs to throw a knife at John Mayer.

Ando · Unread post by **Ando** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:42 pm

What if dave and john played together... Some shit would go down then, between fans that is

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:43 pm

nah. it'd probably be cushioned by a bra.

dustin · Unread post by **dustin** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:40 pm

man i hope yall are kidding because for some reason that is really making me mad how yall talking about john like that grow up

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:08 pm

i'm kidding. i dunno about andy. hehe. i'm too tired of retyping the same stuff over and over, though. meh.

Ando · Unread post by **Ando** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:34 pm

i never said anything bad... I like John

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:35 pm

ooh, sorry, i meant acid's comment.

andy rocks!

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:48 am

gcom007 wrote:Mayer's lyrics flow better and are very good, subject matter may be young but there's no reason to actually knock the songs he puts together.

Dave Matthews is washed up...lyrically washed up since BTCS.

so what color are your eyes?

DropD-MB · Unread post by **DropD-MB** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:33 pm

YEah, Im kind of sick of that discussion. But even more annoyed when people say Dave is more skilled at guitar.

gcom007 · Unread post by **gcom007** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:48 pm

dave's voice started out as terrible and nasally, then he just started growling, then he growled one too many times and threw out his voice and now it's just hacked up...never could you consider him a great singer. timmy vs. john is ridiculous. sure, timmy's technically better. he's technically better than a lot, but personally, I can't stand him. He has no sense of feel and melody. He just plays a million notes per minute. personally, I can't get into that. Mayer atleast has a sense of feel and melody combined with technical excellence that makes him a lot easier to listen to. and some of you may be surprised to hear what other musicians think of dmb...you have no idea how many times I've heard, "I like the drummer, I have no respect for the rest of them though." Just because they mean a lot to you doesn't mean they really are that great. Seriously.

DreaminBassMunky · Unread post by **DreaminBassMunky** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 1:31 pm

..man and I thought this thread wasn't gonna go anywhere ;-)

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