CALLING ALL DRUMMERS!

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CALLING ALL DRUMMERS!

Unread post by mattinbeloit » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:22 pm

Ok, I've gotten myself in a hole here possibly, I just can't justify this in my mind... My trumpet playing roomate made the comment that he wished he had become a drummer instead of a trumpet player because it would of been cheaper. I said I thought that was bullshit so I need some help from you DRUMMERS. He started saying that trumpet players need all these differnt trumpets in different keys and thats expensive. I don't doubt it. He started listing off all thes expensive trumpets that were the best and I said "well the same can apply for drums. I'm sure you can buy a snare that cost $1000 just like you can buy a trumpet for $10,000." He said bullshit that there were not snares that cost that much. I don't know but I would think there would be???? Anyway, I would like to see what kind of money you drummers out there have put into your hobby, and If you were a professional drummer, assemble a set for me and give me a quote. In my mind, it seems like even when you have a drum set you would want to add to it and possibly have different peices for different situations and what not. He seemed to think that drummers don't really buy that much extra stuff and have it sitting arounf for different gigs/situations. Like I said, I'm a bit in the dark here on specifics, but what he says just dosnt seem to make sense to me. Help me out drummers. Also, I want a quote on how much carters set is (I know he changes it around alot, but give an estimate by like what the road crew has listed as his stuff...). Thanks guys, and If i'm totaly wrong please point it out, it wouldnt be the first time, it just didnt seem logical to me...
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Unread post by bassman462 » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:32 pm

hmm iono, all i know is that my brothers relatively small set costs more then his car.
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Unread post by carter29 » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:22 pm

I would say drums are thee most expensive (saxophone's are expensive.). But drums would drawf trumpet's IMO. My beginner kit (im talking benniger drums, snare, semi-begginer cymbals, double kicks, stands, sticks,, percussion, etc.) costs total 1300-1400$ brand new. Carters kit I would estimate between the $65,000 up to maybe even $80,000. I'll at his specific list and maybve get a better estimate for ya's
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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:36 am

Don't get me wrong here guys, trumpet is expensive, but i still don't see it...
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Unread post by carter29 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:28 am

mattinbeloit wrote:Don't get me wrong here guys, trumpet is expensive, but i still don't see it...
unless a trumpet player needs a shitload of trumpets, drums would be more expensive. Also theres things like stands for each cymbal which cost anywhere from 120$ to 300$, throne, sticks, replacement skins (looking at 15-50$/per skin, average kit has 8 skins to replace, plus 2 bass drum skin, costing a little more, mind you this is less frequent then say, sticks, but an expensive chore nonetheless)
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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:17 pm

carter29 wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:Don't get me wrong here guys, trumpet is expensive, but i still don't see it...
unless a trumpet player needs a shitload of trumpets, drums would be more expensive. Also theres things like stands for each cymbal which cost anywhere from 120$ to 300$, throne, sticks, replacement skins (looking at 15-50$/per skin, average kit has 8 skins to replace, plus 2 bass drum skin, costing a little more, mind you this is less frequent then say, sticks, but an expensive chore nonetheless)
And I want an estimated price for all of it so I can shove it down his throat :) !
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:32 pm

....is it really that big of a deal?



And my current kit which is a simple two tom, 18" bass and standard bass, snare, and 4 cymbals cost me around $4,000 (in total cost, not all at one time. Kind of an invetment kit). Though, it is an American Made brand so that jacked up the cost considerably.
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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:59 pm

Beauford33 wrote:....is it really that big of a deal?



And my current kit which is a simple two tom, 18" bass and standard bass, snare, and 4 cymbals cost me around $4,000 (in total cost, not all at one time. Kind of an invetment kit). Though, it is an American Made brand so that jacked up the cost considerably.
It's not really that big of a deal, I kind of made that comment more as a joke. thanks for the info.
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Unread post by carter29 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:25 am

how many trumpets does this kid own?? I can't see even a serious trumpet player owning very many

im gonna put an estimate on Carter's kit now, but im stoned so this may take FOREVER
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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:36 am

carter29 wrote:how many trumpets does this kid own?? I can't see even a serious trumpet player owning very many

im gonna put an estimate on Carter's kit now, but im stoned so this may take FOREVER
I got strings from a stoner once, I told him the price said $5 instead of $15 and he was like "Oh shit my bad", so don't sweat buddy I'll just round up :thumbsup: ... The thing is, you have to buy a different trumpet for different keys and that can add up, and it's easy for a good trumpet to go for 5-10k... Plus if you add sepcial valves or something that can be expensive, plus mouth peices and shit, it can get expensive apparently....
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Unread post by bassman462 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:45 am

mattinbeloit wrote:
carter29 wrote:how many trumpets does this kid own?? I can't see even a serious trumpet player owning very many

im gonna put an estimate on Carter's kit now, but im stoned so this may take FOREVER
I got strings from a stoner once, I told him the price said $5 instead of $15 and he was like "Oh shit my bad", so don't sweat buddy I'll just round up :thumbsup: ... The thing is, you have to buy a different trumpet for different keys and that can add up, and it's easy for a good trumpet to go for 5-10k... Plus if you add sepcial valves or something that can be expensive, plus mouth peices and shit, it can get expensive apparently....
then everysong in jazz band must be in the exact same key :wink: .

i know that's not true, but im sure that trumpets can play in more then one key, but that some keys needs to have a different one. the valve thing makes sense, same with mouth peice.
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Unread post by czech » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:15 am

who says, "drum players"?

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Unread post by sunglassesatnight » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:47 am

czech wrote:who says, "drum players"?
The same sort of person who makes such a remarkably stupid thread.

We know Jason said at least one true thing.

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Unread post by carter29 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:59 am

czech wrote:who says, "drum players"?
yeah I let that one go haha

I'm having trouble getting an accurate total on Carter's line of drums, I'm going off that huge pic someone posted, I can find it, i'll try to host it even though I never have done that before.

edit: here it is, wow, I can use imageshack, me wee-todd-it
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never mind I really am retarded, that link should show you the pic, but I dont know how to host it from here i guess... :roll: rolling eyes for me

edit# 4 or 5: ehh, I finally got it
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Unread post by bassman462 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:35 am

oh and carter uses two top hats. if that changes anything.
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