string number stuff

hangulmalmotayo · Unread post by **hangulmalmotayo** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:03 pm

what's 80/20 and 92/8 and stuff and phosphor bronze and all that stuff. what's the difference and what are the numbers for?

DMBFan63 · Unread post by **DMBFan63** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:25 am

the numbers are the thickness, in MM of the strings. phosphor bronze is the type of winding on the wound strings.. that's why most electric are Nickle wound.. most acoustic are bronze wound

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:11 am

yes, the two numbers on the string packet, they will be in inches and mm.

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:48 am

dmbfan63, your avatar is covering your post.

EDIT: nevermind. it doesn't anymore

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:50 am

hangulmalmotayo wrote:what's 80/20 and 92/8 and stuff and phosphor bronze and all that stuff. what's the difference and what are the numbers for?

you are all way off on this one.

80/20 is a bronze alloy. as is 92/8. it's based on the amount of copper and zinc and phosphor etc.

anyways. 80/20 straight bronze and has a thicker heavier tone. kinda sounds like older strings.

92/8 is phosphor bronze.

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:50 am

grock wrote:
hangulmalmotayo wrote:what's 80/20 and 92/8 and stuff and phosphor bronze and all that stuff. what's the difference and what are the numbers for?
you are all way off on this one.

80/20 is a bronze alloy. as is 92/8. it's based on the amount of copper and zinc and phosphor etc.

anyways. 80/20 straight bronze and has a thicker heavier tone. kinda sounds like older strings.

92/8 is phosphor bronze.

thats exactly what i was thinkin but everyone replied with something totally off so if i said that everyone would think i was crazy.... Guess im not the only one

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:55 am

grock wrote:
hangulmalmotayo wrote:what's 80/20 and 92/8 and stuff and phosphor bronze and all that stuff. what's the difference and what are the numbers for?
you are all way off on this one.

80/20 is a bronze alloy. as is 92/8. it's based on the amount of copper and zinc and phosphor etc.

anyways. 80/20 straight bronze and has a thicker heavier tone. kinda sounds like older strings.

92/8 is phosphor bronze.

yeah so 80/20 is the ratio of copper to zinc? and 92/8 is the ratio of bronze to phosphor?

or what?

suppose I could surf the net on this one, but just in case you know.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:53 pm

gravedigger wrote:
grock wrote:
hangulmalmotayo wrote:what's 80/20 and 92/8 and stuff and phosphor bronze and all that stuff. what's the difference and what are the numbers for?
you are all way off on this one.

80/20 is a bronze alloy. as is 92/8. it's based on the amount of copper and zinc and phosphor etc.

anyways. 80/20 straight bronze and has a thicker heavier tone. kinda sounds like older strings.

92/8 is phosphor bronze.
yeah so 80/20 is the ratio of copper to zinc? and 92/8 is the ratio of bronze to phosphor? or what?

suppose I could surf the net on this one, but just in case you know.

you're right on the 80/20. but 92/8 is kinda tricky it is usually like 92% copper 7.7% zinc and .3% phosphor.

right on.

DMBFan63 · Unread post by **DMBFan63** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:01 pm

Oh, my bad, i didn't really read the post well.. i thought the numbers he gave were thicknesses..yes, i realize if you had a 80/20 set of strings, they'd be huge, but good job clearing it up grock

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:36 pm

hmmm, its funny how that little bit of phosphorous in the alloy would make a difference, but it does have a different sound and it doesn't tarnish as quickly. interesting.

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:15 pm

yes, i like the pho bronzes way better
i use the martins

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:50 am

gravedigger wrote:hmmm, its funny how that little bit of phosphorous in the alloy would make a difference, but it does have a different sound and it doesn't tarnish as quickly. interesting.

i work in a factory where all of our tanks are made with different grades of steel and i am always amazed at how a .1% change can drastically change the properties of the alloy. like some steel is magnetic and other is not and it's all because of a small change in the %'s. chemistry is crazy!

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:14 pm

yeah that's more of a topic from solid state physics. magnetic moments and atomic structures and stuff like that.

there was a question on millionaire today that asked what metal is mixed with copper to make bronze and the answer was Tin. Zinc wasn't one of the choices. actually the question was: What is TRADITIONALLY used with copper to make bronze. Zinc and Tin must be close in the periodic table. Maybe bronze is just any alloy with copper as its main constituent. I don't know.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:43 pm

gravedigger wrote:Maybe bronze is just any alloy with copper as its main constituent.

yep.

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