guitar tonation problem

[busted7970]

I think one of my guitars might have a slight tonation problem. How do you check this?

[sunglassesatnight]

Do you mean "intonation," where it plays out of tune up the neck?

[dmb_rulz]

Yes thats what i mean. Very sorry for the typo there

[sunglassesatnight]

That's your test right there. Play some notes up the neck and check them on your tuner.

A guitar shop should be able to fix it for you.

[T714]

There are various ways to fix the intonation on a guitar.

Do you have a strobe tuner available? They are expensive and not many people own them, but you can use them to determine the number of "cents" you are off.

Another "poor mans" technique is tune your guitar to pitch. Find the string that is at fault, and check it against a 12th fret harmonic. For example, if tune your Low E string to pitch and when you play a twelfth fret harmonic and it's sharp, your intonation is off. The reverse is true if you are flat.

Most times, your guitar goes sharp, and if so you can:

1. Order a compensated saddle
2. Order a custom-compensated saddle
3. Bring it to a luthier...they will intonate the saddle and do a set-up. In VERY extreme cases, the bridge slot must be reglued/filled with ebony/ebony dust and recut. This happens on a small percentage of guitars and most likely is not the case.

Whatever the option may be, you should take it someone. Plan on paying about $45 for a set-up and another $20 for bone saddle.

[whatshername]

I have this same problem right now. I took it to the shop and they said my neck isn't warped or anything, my action is just high right now. Before you buy anything, bring it to the luthier and let them just look at it and give you an estimate. Mine is going to cost 15 to 20 bucks.

[mangold]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

[T714]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

[mangold]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

compliment... fag

[T714]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

compliment... fag

gotcha...i spent two summers at a "luthiery" type of school with the hopes of building guitars, so i had to know a lot of things regarding setup, not to mention bindings/channeling, kerfling, bracing, bridge plates, truss rods, tone woods, inlays, glues, purfling, nuts, saddles, string spacings, string heights, calculations, tuners, bushings, headplates, overlays, and of course, the history of the Martin guitar.

[mangold]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

compliment... fag

gotcha...i spent two summers at a "luthiery" type of school with the hopes of building guitars, so i had to know a lot of things regarding setup, not to mention bindings/channeling, kerfling, bracing, bridge plates, truss rods, tone woods, inlays, glues, purfling, nuts, saddles, string spacings, string heights, calculations, tuners, bushings, headplates, overlays, and of course, the history of the Martin guitar.

everything you learned in those 2 summers i have learned by reading EVERYTHING i can find on the world wide web. i have aspirations of building my own acoustic someday

[T714]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

compliment... fag

gotcha...i spent two summers at a "luthiery" type of school with the hopes of building guitars, so i had to know a lot of things regarding setup, not to mention bindings/channeling, kerfling, bracing, bridge plates, truss rods, tone woods, inlays, glues, purfling, nuts, saddles, string spacings, string heights, calculations, tuners, bushings, headplates, overlays, and of course, the history of the Martin guitar.

everything you learned in those 2 summers i have learned by reading EVERYTHING i can find on the world wide web. i have aspirations of building my own acoustic someday

that's cool, but doing is a lot different from reading...

try laying down a forward shifted X brace 1" below the soundhole at 5 am.

[mangold]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

compliment... fag

gotcha...i spent two summers at a "luthiery" type of school with the hopes of building guitars, so i had to know a lot of things regarding setup, not to mention bindings/channeling, kerfling, bracing, bridge plates, truss rods, tone woods, inlays, glues, purfling, nuts, saddles, string spacings, string heights, calculations, tuners, bushings, headplates, overlays, and of course, the history of the Martin guitar.

everything you learned in those 2 summers i have learned by reading EVERYTHING i can find on the world wide web. i have aspirations of building my own acoustic someday

that's cool, but doing is a lot different from reading...

try laying down a forward shifted X brace 1" below the soundhole at 5 am.

i understand that doing is alot different... i want to "do" so fucking bad its not even funny

[T714]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

compliment... fag

gotcha...i spent two summers at a "luthiery" type of school with the hopes of building guitars, so i had to know a lot of things regarding setup, not to mention bindings/channeling, kerfling, bracing, bridge plates, truss rods, tone woods, inlays, glues, purfling, nuts, saddles, string spacings, string heights, calculations, tuners, bushings, headplates, overlays, and of course, the history of the Martin guitar.

everything you learned in those 2 summers i have learned by reading EVERYTHING i can find on the world wide web. i have aspirations of building my own acoustic someday

that's cool, but doing is a lot different from reading...

try laying down a forward shifted X brace 1" below the soundhole at 5 am.

i understand that doing is alot different... i want to "do" so fucking bad its not even funny

go and do it then...check out if there are any luthiers in your area that offer an "apprentice" type learning environment. Or, check out an issue of Acoustic Guitar magazine. Lots of luthiery schools in last few pages of the magazine.

if you have a beater guitar, that will help out as well. playing with the truss rod, adjusting the action, working with electronics. it comes in handy.

i did a small east coast tour with Collective Soul last year. i adjusted all the guitars in my band and did setups from the comforts of the backseat of the ye ole van. in one instance, my bass player's input signal was messed up and the jack was loose. we stopped off at some el-cheapo electronics store and i soldered the wired right there at the counter. when his nut on his bass was binding, i used a quick little trick i learned at luthiery school...actually, a quick cob-job to say the least...i dropped in some superglue, and worked the nut slut with an emory board and the graphite from a pencil. pretty amusing.

[mangold]

part of me doesnt like T714 because i no longer have anything to contribute to these technical threads... wah im superfluous

is that knock or a compliment to me?

compliment... fag

gotcha...i spent two summers at a "luthiery" type of school with the hopes of building guitars, so i had to know a lot of things regarding setup, not to mention bindings/channeling, kerfling, bracing, bridge plates, truss rods, tone woods, inlays, glues, purfling, nuts, saddles, string spacings, string heights, calculations, tuners, bushings, headplates, overlays, and of course, the history of the Martin guitar.

everything you learned in those 2 summers i have learned by reading EVERYTHING i can find on the world wide web. i have aspirations of building my own acoustic someday

that's cool, but doing is a lot different from reading...

try laying down a forward shifted X brace 1" below the soundhole at 5 am.

i understand that doing is alot different... i want to "do" so fucking bad its not even funny

go and do it then...check out if there are any luthiers in your area that offer an "apprentice" type learning environment. Or, check out an issue of Acoustic Guitar magazine. Lots of luthiery schools in last few pages of the magazine.

if you have a beater guitar, that will help out as well. playing with the truss rod, adjusting the action, working with electronics. it comes in handy.

i did a small east coast tour with Collective Soul last year. i adjusted all the guitars in my band and did setups from the comforts of the backseat of the ye ole van. in one instance, my bass player's input signal was messed up and the jack was loose. we stopped off at some el-cheapo electronics store and i soldered the wired right there at the counter. when his nut on his bass was binding, i used a quick little trick i learned at luthiery school...actually, a quick cob-job to say the least...i dropped in some superglue, and worked the nut slut with an emory board and the graphite from a pencil. pretty amusing.

i have looked into it. philadelphia and the surrounding area is a dead zone for luthery. the closest place is nazareth, and i think you probably know whats there