To choose: 1998 714ce or 2003 414rce (Fall Ltd)

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:25 am

Both play very well.

The '98 has the Fishman blender and the '03 the ES (obviously).

The '98 is cedar/rosewood (IIRC) and the '03 is sitka/rosewood.

Which would you choose ... Both are priced at $1325.

I know it's personal preference but I was hoping for feedback on cedar tops as I hear the wood is very soft and prone to damage from extended use.

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:34 pm

pics?

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:00 pm

jsgksu wrote:pics?

Sorry it's a 2k1 714ce

2003 414rce

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:01 pm

that 414 looks pretty damn sexy

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:12 pm

jsgksu wrote:that 414 looks pretty damn sexy

Yeah it does, doesn't it? I'm not sure on cedar. I've heard about people wearing huge furrows in the sound hole edge from playing.

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:29 pm

Cedar is a softer wood than sitka spruce, however I think it sounds much better, but that's complete personal preference. It's got a warmer sound to it... More balanced IMO. Great for strumming or fingerpicking, while sitka is more suited for strumming.

My first high end guitar will have a cedar top... if it's not all walnut.

I'd go for the 714

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:41 pm

shane wrote:Cedar is a softer wood than sitka spruce, however I think it sounds much better, but that's complete personal preference. It's got a warmer sound to it... More balanced IMO. Great for strumming or fingerpicking, while sitka is more suited for strumming.

My first high end guitar will have a cedar top... if it's not all walnut.

I'd go for the 714

Thanks Shane

i-am-me · Unread post by **i-am-me** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:56 pm

that 414 looks a lot like my 814......

but i like the cedar top. 714

hcole · Unread post by **hcole** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:52 pm

Without playing either of them I would go with the 414 just because I'd be unsure of the cedar top. I've heard some that sound fine strummed and some that sound like poo when strummed.

Kahn · Unread post by **Kahn** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:49 pm

i say 714, but its all personal preference

dmbguitar718 · Unread post by **dmbguitar718** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:43 pm

I think I just creamed my pants.

EnFuego · Unread post by **EnFuego** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:32 pm

I have a 714 LTD, and I love it (it has a cedar top). It is more responsive to fingerstyle (IMO isn't for the hard strummer though, I mean light/medium sounds great, but not to strum hard). Also I've seen that 414 just sold on the AGF, and is already being sold again (not sure what the story is, but I would be a little skeptical if somebody is already selling it again). the 414 may be great, but I would at least look into why its being sold so quickly.

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:32 pm

EnFuego wrote:I have a 714 LTD, and I love it (it has a cedar top). It is more responsive to fingerstyle (IMO isn't for the hard strummer though, I mean light/medium sounds great, but not to strum hard). Also I've seen that 414 just sold on the AGF, and is already being sold again (not sure what the story is, but I would be a little skeptical if somebody is already selling it again). the 414 may be great, but I would at least look into why its being sold so quickly.

I'm going down to play it ... I think the guy bought it on impulse but he's also having family problems so he may need the bling.

I don't fingerstyle at all so I guess the 714 is out.

Thanks for the tip man, you saved me another trip

Grachi · Unread post by **Grachi** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:05 pm

I really like the 414 honestly. I don't like the 714 body/design/look, which enough to stray me away from buying it. but thats just my personal taste.

EnFuego · Unread post by **EnFuego** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:33 pm

charliemike wrote:
EnFuego wrote:I have a 714 LTD, and I love it (it has a cedar top). It is more responsive to fingerstyle (IMO isn't for the hard strummer though, I mean light/medium sounds great, but not to strum hard). Also I've seen that 414 just sold on the AGF, and is already being sold again (not sure what the story is, but I would be a little skeptical if somebody is already selling it again). the 414 may be great, but I would at least look into why its being sold so quickly.
I'm going down to play it ... I think the guy bought it on impulse but he's also having family problems so he may need the bling.

I don't fingerstyle at all so I guess the 714 is out.

Thanks for the tip man, you saved me another trip

others may have other opinions on it, but that is my take (and the guy that sold it to me told me that it was a "fingerstyle guitar" too). I think that cedar is generally used more in fingerstyle playing (James Taylor's Olson has cedar top).

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To choose: 1998 714ce or 2003 414rce (Fall Ltd)

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