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Pedal Order???

Unread post by Appfro » Wed May 04, 2005 1:57 pm

I have 4 pedals now and a tuner. If I wanted to hook all of them up what should the order be. I have
Reverb
Delay
Overdrive
Volume
Tuner

Does it go:

Guitar -> Tuner -> Overdrive -> Delay -> Reverb -> Volume -> Amp

I know it matters because you want normal sound w/ no effects going into your tuner and from what i hear to cut down on noise you want your reverb last.

That's the format, let me know if I've done anything wrong.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed May 04, 2005 2:06 pm

I would go

Guitar>Tuner>Volume>Delay>Reverb>Overdrive>Amp
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Unread post by GuitarGuy305 » Wed May 04, 2005 4:24 pm

Personally, I always have delay last. And reverb after other effects.

Guitar>Tuner>Volume>Overdrive>Reverb>Delay>Amp.

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Unread post by Appfro » Wed May 04, 2005 4:35 pm

GuitarGuy305 wrote:Personally, I always have delay last. And reverb after other effects.

Guitar>Tuner>Volume>Overdrive>Reverb>Delay>Amp.
i kind of thought about putting the delay last because the dd-6 has a stereo output and can put sound into two different amps if you want it to. the problem w/ that and w/ your setup is that the volume pedal no longer helps control the sounds of the effects in the pedals. so the volume pedal is only going to control the volume of the guitar itself and of the guitar input into the pedals. i know each pedal has it's own volume control, but it's hard to mess w/ them in the middle of a song.

EDIT: plus i just found out that my volume pedal has its own tuner output, so the tuner is no longer a factor.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed May 04, 2005 7:10 pm

well i always pu overdrive last because if not the effect gets either exageratted or diminished by the other pedals... its the only one that actually changes the base sound. the reverb just adds to it, the delay just delays it, etc. I plan on having a blues driver, cuz i like soft overdrive, if your into the heavy stuff it may belong elsewhere
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Unread post by Appfro » Wed May 04, 2005 9:12 pm

praisedave wrote:well i always pu overdrive last because if not the effect gets either exageratted or diminished by the other pedals... its the only one that actually changes the base sound. the reverb just adds to it, the delay just delays it, etc. I plan on having a blues driver, cuz i like soft overdrive, if your into the heavy stuff it may belong elsewhere
so am i wrong in thinking the volume pedal should be last?

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Unread post by mangold » Wed May 04, 2005 9:13 pm

Appfro wrote:
praisedave wrote:well i always pu overdrive last because if not the effect gets either exageratted or diminished by the other pedals... its the only one that actually changes the base sound. the reverb just adds to it, the delay just delays it, etc. I plan on having a blues driver, cuz i like soft overdrive, if your into the heavy stuff it may belong elsewhere
so am i wrong in thinking the volume pedal should be last?
i think it should be first cuz its like an override...
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Unread post by Appfro » Wed May 04, 2005 9:15 pm

praisedave wrote:
Appfro wrote:
praisedave wrote:well i always pu overdrive last because if not the effect gets either exageratted or diminished by the other pedals... its the only one that actually changes the base sound. the reverb just adds to it, the delay just delays it, etc. I plan on having a blues driver, cuz i like soft overdrive, if your into the heavy stuff it may belong elsewhere
so am i wrong in thinking the volume pedal should be last?
i think it should be first cuz its like an override...
it would be an overdrive if it were the last thing going into the amp cause it would mess w/ all the volumes of everything going in. if it's first from the guitar then it only controls the volumes of the inputs or the uneffected noise. after that all the effect noises are on their own.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed May 04, 2005 9:22 pm

Appfro wrote:
praisedave wrote:
Appfro wrote:
praisedave wrote:well i always pu overdrive last because if not the effect gets either exageratted or diminished by the other pedals... its the only one that actually changes the base sound. the reverb just adds to it, the delay just delays it, etc. I plan on having a blues driver, cuz i like soft overdrive, if your into the heavy stuff it may belong elsewhere
so am i wrong in thinking the volume pedal should be last?
i think it should be first cuz its like an override...
it would be an overdrive if it were the last thing going into the amp cause it would mess w/ all the volumes of everything going in. if it's first from the guitar then it only controls the volumes of the inputs or the uneffected noise. after that all the effect noises are on their own.
the volume pedal decreases the volume on everything that the output goes too. this would mean that the effects are ussually decreased, and if its overdrive as opposed to distortion you're usin then you can keep it form activating at all with the volume pedal. PLus it would then allow the delay and reverb to last after you end a song ro take the volume down because the effect will not be affected by the v pedal, only the live feed
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Unread post by Appfro » Wed May 04, 2005 9:24 pm

hmmmmmmmm, good point. i should get two volume pedals :)

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Unread post by mangold » Wed May 04, 2005 9:25 pm

Appfro wrote:hmmmmmmmm, good point. i should get two volume pedals :)
thats an option too... although i dont see why you would need one at the end of the chain
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Unread post by fatjack » Thu May 05, 2005 9:14 am

a delay pedal should always be last unless it has a direct out, then it should be first. i know my dd-3 has a direct out, so chances are your dd-6 has one too

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Unread post by Appfro » Thu May 05, 2005 11:08 am

no direct output. only stereo and mono.

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so then you suggest

guitar>volume>reverb>overdrive>delay>amp ???

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Unread post by GuitarGuy305 » Thu May 05, 2005 2:29 pm

Appfro wrote:
GuitarGuy305 wrote:Personally, I always have delay last. And reverb after other effects.

Guitar>Tuner>Volume>Overdrive>Reverb>Delay>Amp.
i kind of thought about putting the delay last because the dd-6 has a stereo output and can put sound into two different amps if you want it to. the problem w/ that and w/ your setup is that the volume pedal no longer helps control the sounds of the effects in the pedals. so the volume pedal is only going to control the volume of the guitar itself and of the guitar input into the pedals. i know each pedal has it's own volume control, but it's hard to mess w/ them in the middle of a song.

EDIT: plus i just found out that my volume pedal has its own tuner output, so the tuner is no longer a factor.
This is the setup I use:

Guitar->Multieffects->MT2 Metal Zone->Morley Wah/Volume->DD-5 Digital Delay->Amp/PA.

My multieffects as a volume pedal built in. I like the volume being before other effects because it effects the volume of the guitar signal going into the other effects. This allows total control over volume, with no need to adjust pedal's individual volumes. I have my Wah/Volume after multieffects and Metal Zone, because I think wah sounds better after distortion/modulation.

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Unread post by Appfro » Thu May 05, 2005 4:54 pm

ok, i went guitar>volume>overdrive>reverb>delay>amp

i think i like it like that. the reverb made too much noise when it was first and even when playing w/ overdrive it still sounds REALLY good through the reverb. and then delay last. i guess i was wrong about the whole volume pedal thing, i like it in the beginning as long as i don't have my delay on loop or something. if i have my reverb or delay way up and shut off the volume really fast it sounds really cool cause the effects last for just another second.

i'm still gonna try moving the volume pedal to the end a couple times just to see if i like it better. i always have the volume knob on the guitar.

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