Truss Rod Adjustment

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Truss Rod Adjustment

Unread post by MahlerGrooves » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:51 am

So I have been messing with my TR because after I put the pickup in and sanded the saddle to compensate, the action was still to high. How do I tell if the neck angle is right. On the paper that Taylor sent me with my guitar, it says there should be a space the size of a business card under the 6th fret, and that the neck, when properly adjusted, should be perfectly straight between the 1st and 14th frets.

I am having a massivly hard time with those vague instructions. Also, at what volume is some string buzz normal? I have been wanting to adjust it to get rid of it all, but I think when using a certain amount of strum force, string buzz is inevitable.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Truss Rod Adjustment

Unread post by HCHaikuWarrior » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:02 am

MahlerGrooves wrote:So I have been messing with my TR because after I put the pickup in and sanded the saddle to compensate, the action was still to high. How do I tell if the neck angle is right. On the paper that Taylor sent me with my guitar, it says there should be a space the size of a business card under the 6th fret, and that the neck, when properly adjusted, should be perfectly straight between the 1st and 14th frets.

I am having a massivly hard time with those vague instructions. Also, at what volume is some string buzz normal? I have been wanting to adjust it to get rid of it all, but I think when using a certain amount of strum force, string buzz is inevitable.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
why would u sand the saddle? do u mean bridge?
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Unread post by MahlerGrooves » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:47 am

whatever the white thing is that I had to put the piezo pickup under...i think it is the saddle.
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Unread post by thejoe » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:25 pm

you should sand the saddle and/or bridge if necessary

to check if your neck is aligned just look straight down it, but your face up by the headstock and look straight down the neck all the way down to the sound hole and do this for both sides of the neck
then adjust your tr likewise
the tr isnt really for adjusting action, well indirectly it is, but you really should be sanding the saddle/nut for adjusting string height

so pretty much get your neck straight first, then adjust the nut and/or saddle with sandpaper

edit: also i wouldnt worry about the business card measurement or whatever it was that was in the instructions, thats just silly... just get it as low as possible without it buzzing
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Unread post by MahlerGrooves » Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:26 pm

thanks!
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Unread post by thejoe » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:27 pm

no prob... check your private messages
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Unread post by mangold » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:50 pm

i always use the truss to adjust my action, just work slowly.
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Unread post by thejoe » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:08 am

that'll work if your neck isnt already straight
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Unread post by MahlerGrooves » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:29 am

Hmmm... maybe I will do some more sanding then. My guitar is amazing and I do NOT wanna fuck it up by having a crooked neck.
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Unread post by mangold » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:35 am

crash_in_to_me wrote:that'll work if your neck isnt already straight
if the neck is straight and your action is too high then your bridge and or nut are really fucked up and need adjustment. i havent seen a guitar with a nut/bridge that bad though
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Unread post by gravesRR7 » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:04 pm

praisedave wrote:i always use the truss to adjust my action, just work slowly.
or you might seriously fuck up your guitar
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Unread post by thejoe » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:42 pm

praisedave wrote:
crash_in_to_me wrote:that'll work if your neck isnt already straight
if the neck is straight and your action is too high then your bridge and or nut are really fucked up and need adjustment. i havent seen a guitar with a nut/bridge that bad though
thats what i have said about eight times
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Unread post by mangold » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:46 pm

crash_in_to_me wrote:
praisedave wrote:
crash_in_to_me wrote:that'll work if your neck isnt already straight
if the neck is straight and your action is too high then your bridge and or nut are really fucked up and need adjustment. i havent seen a guitar with a nut/bridge that bad though
thats what i have said about eight times
well you assume that its always the nut or bridge, i find 90+% of the time its the truss that needs adjusted when people complain about high action. i mean if your action is 1/2 inch at the 3rd fret its pretty obvious your nut needs to be filed down. but if its just a bit high for your taste at say the 12th, then the solution is not filing, whether the neck is straight or not
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Unread post by thejoe » Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:55 pm

that's exactly why i said that the neck must be straight BEFORE you mess with the nut/bridge

*shakes head*
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Unread post by mangold » Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:27 pm

crash_in_to_me wrote:that's exactly why i said that the neck must be straight BEFORE you mess with the nut/bridge

*shakes head*
the neck being straight or not has nothing to do with whether or not you adjust the truss unless its interfering with your action. the neck could be perfectly straight bu the action may be too high at 12 for your taste, so you want to backbow it slightly. on some guitars if you make the neck perfectly straight the strings will be touching the frets, its always different
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