Buying a new guitar

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:09 pm

I said that Fender strats suck. I have played other strats that arent too bad. And feel is a major part for a guitarist. If you dont like the way it feels your not going to play well with that guitar.

Swedish_DMB_Fan · Unread post by **Swedish_DMB_Fan** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:19 pm

kcw wrote:I said that Fender strats suck. I have played other strats that arent too bad. And feel is a major part for a guitarist. If you dont like the way it feels your not going to play well with that guitar.

Fenders = good enough for hendrix=good enough for me

Brock · Unread post by **Brock** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:34 pm

kcw wrote:I said that Fender strats suck. I have played other strats that arent too bad. And feel is a major part for a guitarist. If you dont like the way it feels your not going to play well with that guitar.

tyroneslothrop wrote:I was going to get a strat because Mark Knopfler, Jeff Beck, SRV, Eric Clapton, Robert Cray, David Gilmour, and that Hendrix guy used them but now Iâ€™m not. Thanks kcw... I'll take your word instead of theirs.

And before you mention dates and suchâ€¦ and that it was sold to CBS... many amazing musicians were/are playing contemporary Strats... SRV for one. (RIP)

Again... thanks. I'll put my money back in my wallet.

And if Dave Matthews and John Mayer are the two you pointed out that are better than you... may I suggest listening to the following... Andres Segovia, Mike Bloomfield, Wes Montgomery, Tony Rice, but to name a few. Actually forget all the others. Though I'm making a huge assumption, if you haven't heard him... just listen to Tony Rice, and maybe some Paco, Al and John, â€œPassion Grace and Fire.â€

mangold · Unread post by **mangold** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:48 pm

shane wrote:
fenster1977 wrote:
Strats really do sucks. I love Teles. But Strats feel weird and really......it depends on what you use it for. Strats arent bad if your using distortion but without any effects it sounds like crap.
OMG...I have been watching this post as merely an observer and laughing pretty hard....but this statement...i'm sorry, that's the funniest thing I've read in awhile.

yeah, the strat, the most ubiquitous musical intrument on the planet and the guitar that rock and roll was pretty much created on...yeah, that one...is a piece of shit. whew! thanks for the reality check.

give me a break...you don't like the way it feels in your hand and so it sucks? i'm not crazy about the looks of the strat either, it's commonality will forever invoke the image of the mullet-wearing-cheesey-wedding-band-guitarist in my head. but i can still appreciate the fact that it can pretty much do a little bit of overything. any lack of quality coming out of a well-made strat is coming purely from the guitarist and not the guitar.
actually, the rock and roll guitar is the les paul. theres no debate.

word

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:23 pm

Rock and Roll was not created on a Strat at all. Definatly Les Paul and ES-335.

czech · Unread post by **czech** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:48 pm

I thought Bill Haley used a gretsch...wtf do i know

fenster1977 · Unread post by **fenster1977** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:06 pm

Rock and Roll was not created on a Strat at all. Definatly Les Paul and ES-335

come on guys....you're missing my point.

sorry...ONE of the guitars that MODERN rock and roll was REFINED with.

i agree that the LP and 335 are up there, too. but to say that "not created on a strat at all"? like i said before, by no means am i a strat fluffer...but considering how much Jimi (and countless others) infuenced modern guitar playing in rock and roll, on a strat...i think the above statement is wrong. alot of electrics contributed, i was simply trying to sum up the importance of the strat and how they shouldn't ever be dismissed by some guy who probably just thinks its "cool" to bash the most recognizable guitar, because it makes you sound knowledgable to go against the grain.

not talking about you, kcw

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:18 pm

fenster1977 wrote:
Rock and Roll was not created on a Strat at all. Definatly Les Paul and ES-335
come on guys....you're missing my point.

sorry...ONE of the guitars that MODERN rock and roll was REFINED with.

i agree that the LP and 335 are up there, too. but to say that "not created on a strat at all"? like i said before, by no means am i a strat fluffer...but considering how much Jimi (and countless others) infuenced modern guitar playing in rock and roll, on a strat...i think the above statement is wrong. alot of electrics contributed, i was simply trying to sum up the importance of the strat and how they shouldn't ever be dismissed by some guy who probably just thinks its "cool" to bash the most recognizable guitar, because it makes you sound knowledgable to go against the grain.

not talking about you, kcw

I agree with the bold statement. But modern rock really isnt too cool. Most punk rock (in my opinion only you may disagree with me), which is where a lot of strats are found and why most young guitarists by them, really sucks. Some bands arent bad. Then todays metal is horrible. Then there is what i like to call rap with guitars. And rap just completely sucks! An example of that is Limp Biscuit (sp).Modern day rock bands arent IN MY OPINION very good. The good rock bands of today I dont see playing strats at all. John Mayer has a strat I think but......thats one exception. Again this is only my opinion. That probably isnt exactly what you meant though. I do admit that Hendrix and Clapton influenced a lot of stuff today. And I know you said you werent talking about me but just to let all of you know I have played many a strat and I dont like most of them.

czech · Unread post by **czech** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:14 pm

I dunno, my fav sounding mass produced guitar is by far the SG.
But I love the playability of my strat.

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:21 pm

I have an SG and it is amzing. The best part is its broken but it still sounds awesome! Its not broken too bad though. One side of one of the pickups keeps falling into the body of the guitar and I just keep tightening the screw to raise it again. I know whats wrong with it but I cant get to it cause one of the screws on the pick gaurd is stripped. So I cant get it off. But it doesnt sound bad at all with the screwy pickup.

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:39 pm

and hendrix and clapton most likely were NOT playing stock strats. theyve most likely been hotrodded beyond belief.

an example of this is one of my favorite bands, Third Day. Brad Avery is an endorser of epiphone.

but how does Brad get that amazing tone from an epi? (besides his awesome amps)

because his epi is basically a Gibson with an Epi headstock! new pickups, wiring, neck, etc..

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:42 pm

Third Day rocks man. Mac Powell has the coolest voice.

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:43 pm

kcw wrote:Third Day rocks man. Mac Powell has the coolest voice.

yeah buddy

mangold · Unread post by **mangold** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:38 pm

fenster1977 wrote:
Rock and Roll was not created on a Strat at all. Definatly Les Paul and ES-335
come on guys....you're missing my point.

sorry...ONE of the guitars that MODERN rock and roll was REFINED with.

i agree that the LP and 335 are up there, too. but to say that "not created on a strat at all"? like i said before, by no means am i a strat fluffer...but considering how much Jimi (and countless others) infuenced modern guitar playing in rock and roll, on a strat...i think the above statement is wrong. alot of electrics contributed, i was simply trying to sum up the importance of the strat and how they shouldn't ever be dismissed by some guy who probably just thinks its "cool" to bash the most recognizable guitar, because it makes you sound knowledgable to go against the grain.

not talking about you, kcw

the strat definetly had a large part in forming the sound of rock and roll, everbody in the modern rock world played em like 3-4 years ago. i justr dont like the guitar. I dont like fords but i would never deny the model T's historical importance. fact of the matter is better cars have been made. and better guitars have been made as well. the strat is a big part of rock history no doubt

hcole · Unread post by **hcole** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:46 pm

praisedave wrote:
fenster1977 wrote:
Rock and Roll was not created on a Strat at all. Definatly Les Paul and ES-335
come on guys....you're missing my point.

sorry...ONE of the guitars that MODERN rock and roll was REFINED with.

i agree that the LP and 335 are up there, too. but to say that "not created on a strat at all"? like i said before, by no means am i a strat fluffer...but considering how much Jimi (and countless others) infuenced modern guitar playing in rock and roll, on a strat...i think the above statement is wrong. alot of electrics contributed, i was simply trying to sum up the importance of the strat and how they shouldn't ever be dismissed by some guy who probably just thinks its "cool" to bash the most recognizable guitar, because it makes you sound knowledgable to go against the grain.

not talking about you, kcw
the strat definetly had a large part in forming the sound of rock and roll, everbody in the modern rock world played em like 3-4 years ago. i justr dont like the guitar. I dont like fords but i would never deny the model T's historical importance. fact of the matter is better cars have been made. and better guitars have been made as well. the strat is a big part of rock history no doubt

Jesus Christ, when people say they "helped shape the sound of modern rock" they aren't talking about 3-4 years ago. They're talking about Hendrix, Clapton et al.

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