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Unread post by CWMCALL » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:32 am

I frequent "The Acoustic Guitar Forum (formerly The Taylor Guitar Forum)" and I have seen many posts regarding problems with the ES System. I own a 2003 Taylor 314ce Limited with ES but I have never plugged it in, so I guess I can't speak anymore to the issue (other than it looks very nice :D )

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Unread post by T714 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:32 am

CWMCALL wrote:I frequent "The Acoustic Guitar Forum (formerly The Taylor Guitar Forum)" and I have seen many posts regarding problems with the ES System. I own a 2003 Taylor 314ce Limited with ES but I have never plugged it in, so I guess I can't speak anymore to the issue (other than it looks very nice :D )
Thank you very much!

Instead of arguing, why don't you guys call Mike Tobin @ Taylor Guitars Customer Service? I'm on the damn phone with him everyday ordering updated ES parts to fix all the bugs, why dont you guys just ask him yourself?

Ask him about shims, Hot B and E strings, ground lift's, DI's, TRS cables breaking, and bad soldering to start....he'll explain all about it!

Customer Service can be reached at (800) 943-6782 between the hours of 8:00 A.M. and 4:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Monday through Friday.

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Unread post by i like tictacs » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:31 pm

This could all be solved by playing bass
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Unread post by mangold » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:40 pm

hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
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Unread post by T714 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:31 pm

praisedave wrote:hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
the modifications were easy, and the guitar can be returned to stock in 15 minutes...Regarding the fossilized walrus pins, I have an endorsement deal with http://www.guitarsaddles.com So, I get my pins for a discounted rate. You can see my endorsement by visiting that link and clicking on "Matt" in the lower right portion of that page. FWI bridge pins increase clarity, sustain, and help bring out the subtle overtones of the guitar. Remember, the biggest contributor in the transfer of sound (other than the saddle) is your bridge pins and your nut, in that order. Besides, the pins are beautiful and I had them custom inlayed with padauk (the same wood used on the DM3MD). So they look beautiful.

As far as the tuners, Waverly (arguably) are the best tuning machines out there. The tuners that come on the DM3MD are really worth $25, and you can pick up a set at http://www.stew-mac.com They were a little tougher to turn, and I use .13 gauge medium strings, so I needed the best tuners with the best turning ratio as possible. Waverlies were the way to go!

But getting back to those pins, check out that link, and there's a picture of me and my Chet Atkins SST. Its a cool site, and you can read all about the benefits of FWI and bone nuts, saddles, and bridge pins!

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:46 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
the modifications were easy, and the guitar can be returned to stock in 15 minutes...Regarding the fossilized walrus pins, I have an endorsement deal with http://www.guitarsaddles.com So, I get my pins for a discounted rate. You can see my endorsement by visiting that link and clicking on "Matt" in the lower right portion of that page. FWI bridge pins increase clarity, sustain, and help bring out the subtle overtones of the guitar. Remember, the biggest contributor in the transfer of sound (other than the saddle) is your bridge pins and your nut, in that order. Besides, the pins are beautiful and I had them custom inlayed with padauk (the same wood used on the DM3MD). So they look beautiful.

As far as the tuners, Waverly (arguably) are the best tuning machines out there. The tuners that come on the DM3MD are really worth $25, and you can pick up a set at http://www.stew-mac.com They were a little tougher to turn, and I use .13 gauge medium strings, so I needed the best tuners with the best turning ratio as possible. Waverlies were the way to go!

But getting back to those pins, check out that link, and there's a picture of me and my Chet Atkins SST. Its a cool site, and you can read all about the benefits of FWI and bone nuts, saddles, and bridge pins!
dude... thats awesome... endorsement... are you a performing musician, or a corporate whore? either way thats mad cool

the pins affect sound more than the nut? where did you hear that? I have doen alotta work on acoustic guitars and i believe that it goes: bridge, nut, fret material, bracing system, topwood, bodyshape, back and side wood, and then pins... in that order. You seem to know what you're talkin about tho so id love to hear more

edit: *looks at site* oh you are a performing musician... thats awesome
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Unread post by T714 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:17 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
the modifications were easy, and the guitar can be returned to stock in 15 minutes...Regarding the fossilized walrus pins, I have an endorsement deal with http://www.guitarsaddles.com So, I get my pins for a discounted rate. You can see my endorsement by visiting that link and clicking on "Matt" in the lower right portion of that page. FWI bridge pins increase clarity, sustain, and help bring out the subtle overtones of the guitar. Remember, the biggest contributor in the transfer of sound (other than the saddle) is your bridge pins and your nut, in that order. Besides, the pins are beautiful and I had them custom inlayed with padauk (the same wood used on the DM3MD). So they look beautiful.

As far as the tuners, Waverly (arguably) are the best tuning machines out there. The tuners that come on the DM3MD are really worth $25, and you can pick up a set at http://www.stew-mac.com They were a little tougher to turn, and I use .13 gauge medium strings, so I needed the best tuners with the best turning ratio as possible. Waverlies were the way to go!

But getting back to those pins, check out that link, and there's a picture of me and my Chet Atkins SST. Its a cool site, and you can read all about the benefits of FWI and bone nuts, saddles, and bridge pins!
dude... thats awesome... endorsement... are you a performing musician, or a corporate whore? either way thats mad cool

the pins affect sound more than the nut? where did you hear that? I have doen alotta work on acoustic guitars and i believe that it goes: bridge, nut, fret material, bracing system, topwood, bodyshape, back and side wood, and then pins... in that order. You seem to know what you're talkin about tho so id love to hear more

edit: *looks at site* oh you are a performing musician... thats awesome
hey thanks for checking out the site...you're pretty much dead on regarding your order for the way sound is affected with guitar components. I referenced the saddle, pins, and nut in that order because those are the components that are the most user friendly to change...since we obviously cant change the woods or body shape without buying a whole new guitar! So, sorry for the confusion! That site provides all the info you'll need regarding the benefits of nuts, saddles, and pins...Taylor relies on Tusq saddles and nuts, while Martin relies on Micarta or Corian saddles and nuts. These are synthetic (or man-made) components that are petroleum, oil-based products. In essence, they are cheap plastic parts. Taylor and Martin uses this because they produced over 150,000 guitars combined each year. The cost of using plastic , man-made products is quite cheap, as opposed to using higher quality but more expensive bone or ivory. It's just business, really, and when you sell as many guitars as they do, saving $100,000 in guitar parts each year helps pay the bills! So, changing to bone or EI (Elephant Ivory) or FWI are great additions to any guitar. Like I said, these are the components that are the most user friendly and changeable...

As far as myself, I am a performing musician touring the North East. I struck up the endorsement deal, and man did I get lucky with that. My most notable achievement was landing the opening track on a 50,000 cd sampler produced by MTV, called "In the Wash"...my band even landed the first track on the album! You can read more about that at http://www.inthewash.net

Let me know what you think!

P.S. http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... hp?t=56190

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:18 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
the modifications were easy, and the guitar can be returned to stock in 15 minutes...Regarding the fossilized walrus pins, I have an endorsement deal with http://www.guitarsaddles.com So, I get my pins for a discounted rate. You can see my endorsement by visiting that link and clicking on "Matt" in the lower right portion of that page. FWI bridge pins increase clarity, sustain, and help bring out the subtle overtones of the guitar. Remember, the biggest contributor in the transfer of sound (other than the saddle) is your bridge pins and your nut, in that order. Besides, the pins are beautiful and I had them custom inlayed with padauk (the same wood used on the DM3MD). So they look beautiful.

As far as the tuners, Waverly (arguably) are the best tuning machines out there. The tuners that come on the DM3MD are really worth $25, and you can pick up a set at http://www.stew-mac.com They were a little tougher to turn, and I use .13 gauge medium strings, so I needed the best tuners with the best turning ratio as possible. Waverlies were the way to go!

But getting back to those pins, check out that link, and there's a picture of me and my Chet Atkins SST. Its a cool site, and you can read all about the benefits of FWI and bone nuts, saddles, and bridge pins!
dude... thats awesome... endorsement... are you a performing musician, or a corporate whore? either way thats mad cool

the pins affect sound more than the nut? where did you hear that? I have doen alotta work on acoustic guitars and i believe that it goes: bridge, nut, fret material, bracing system, topwood, bodyshape, back and side wood, and then pins... in that order. You seem to know what you're talkin about tho so id love to hear more

edit: *looks at site* oh you are a performing musician... thats awesome
hey thanks for checking out the site...you're pretty much dead on regarding your order for the way sound is affected with guitar components. I referenced the saddle, pins, and nut in that order because those are the components that are the most user friendly to change...since we obviously cant change the woods or body shape without buying a whole new guitar! So, sorry for the confusion! That site provides all the info you'll need regarding the benefits of nuts, saddles, and pins...Taylor relies on Tusq saddles and nuts, while Martin relies on Micarta or Corian saddles and nuts. These are synthetic (or man-made) components that are petroleum, oil-based products. In essence, they are cheap plastic parts. Taylor and Martin uses this because they produced over 150,000 guitars combined each year. The cost of using plastic , man-made products is quite cheap, as opposed to using higher quality but more expensive bone or ivory. It's just business, really, and when you sell as many guitars as they do, saving $100,000 in guitar parts each year helps pay the bills! So, changing to bone or EI (Elephant Ivory) or FWI are great additions to any guitar. Like I said, these are the components that are the most user friendly and changeable...

As far as myself, I am a performing musician touring the North East. I struck up the endorsement deal, and man did I get lucky with that. My most notable achievement was landing the opening track on a 50,000 cd sampler produced by MTV, called "In the Wash"...my band even landed the first track on the album! You can read more about that at http://www.inthewash.net

Let me know what you think!

P.S. http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... hp?t=56190
so are u signed?
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Unread post by SteelstrungHero » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:19 pm

I was personally very disappointed that Taylor has been dropping their outside sources for parts (Grover for tuners and Fishman for electronics) but after playing one with the ES, I'm satisfied.

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Unread post by T714 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:25 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
the modifications were easy, and the guitar can be returned to stock in 15 minutes...Regarding the fossilized walrus pins, I have an endorsement deal with http://www.guitarsaddles.com So, I get my pins for a discounted rate. You can see my endorsement by visiting that link and clicking on "Matt" in the lower right portion of that page. FWI bridge pins increase clarity, sustain, and help bring out the subtle overtones of the guitar. Remember, the biggest contributor in the transfer of sound (other than the saddle) is your bridge pins and your nut, in that order. Besides, the pins are beautiful and I had them custom inlayed with padauk (the same wood used on the DM3MD). So they look beautiful.

As far as the tuners, Waverly (arguably) are the best tuning machines out there. The tuners that come on the DM3MD are really worth $25, and you can pick up a set at http://www.stew-mac.com They were a little tougher to turn, and I use .13 gauge medium strings, so I needed the best tuners with the best turning ratio as possible. Waverlies were the way to go!

But getting back to those pins, check out that link, and there's a picture of me and my Chet Atkins SST. Its a cool site, and you can read all about the benefits of FWI and bone nuts, saddles, and bridge pins!
dude... thats awesome... endorsement... are you a performing musician, or a corporate whore? either way thats mad cool

the pins affect sound more than the nut? where did you hear that? I have doen alotta work on acoustic guitars and i believe that it goes: bridge, nut, fret material, bracing system, topwood, bodyshape, back and side wood, and then pins... in that order. You seem to know what you're talkin about tho so id love to hear more

edit: *looks at site* oh you are a performing musician... thats awesome
hey thanks for checking out the site...you're pretty much dead on regarding your order for the way sound is affected with guitar components. I referenced the saddle, pins, and nut in that order because those are the components that are the most user friendly to change...since we obviously cant change the woods or body shape without buying a whole new guitar! So, sorry for the confusion! That site provides all the info you'll need regarding the benefits of nuts, saddles, and pins...Taylor relies on Tusq saddles and nuts, while Martin relies on Micarta or Corian saddles and nuts. These are synthetic (or man-made) components that are petroleum, oil-based products. In essence, they are cheap plastic parts. Taylor and Martin uses this because they produced over 150,000 guitars combined each year. The cost of using plastic , man-made products is quite cheap, as opposed to using higher quality but more expensive bone or ivory. It's just business, really, and when you sell as many guitars as they do, saving $100,000 in guitar parts each year helps pay the bills! So, changing to bone or EI (Elephant Ivory) or FWI are great additions to any guitar. Like I said, these are the components that are the most user friendly and changeable...

As far as myself, I am a performing musician touring the North East. I struck up the endorsement deal, and man did I get lucky with that. My most notable achievement was landing the opening track on a 50,000 cd sampler produced by MTV, called "In the Wash"...my band even landed the first track on the album! You can read more about that at http://www.inthewash.net

Let me know what you think!

P.S. http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... hp?t=56190
so are u signed?
Not signed as of yet, I've just signed the endorsement deal and my band is signed to a management company and distribution contracts with FYE. The "real" contract, hopefully, will come!

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Unread post by T714 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:28 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
the modifications were easy, and the guitar can be returned to stock in 15 minutes...Regarding the fossilized walrus pins, I have an endorsement deal with http://www.guitarsaddles.com So, I get my pins for a discounted rate. You can see my endorsement by visiting that link and clicking on "Matt" in the lower right portion of that page. FWI bridge pins increase clarity, sustain, and help bring out the subtle overtones of the guitar. Remember, the biggest contributor in the transfer of sound (other than the saddle) is your bridge pins and your nut, in that order. Besides, the pins are beautiful and I had them custom inlayed with padauk (the same wood used on the DM3MD). So they look beautiful.

As far as the tuners, Waverly (arguably) are the best tuning machines out there. The tuners that come on the DM3MD are really worth $25, and you can pick up a set at http://www.stew-mac.com They were a little tougher to turn, and I use .13 gauge medium strings, so I needed the best tuners with the best turning ratio as possible. Waverlies were the way to go!

But getting back to those pins, check out that link, and there's a picture of me and my Chet Atkins SST. Its a cool site, and you can read all about the benefits of FWI and bone nuts, saddles, and bridge pins!
dude... thats awesome... endorsement... are you a performing musician, or a corporate whore? either way thats mad cool

the pins affect sound more than the nut? where did you hear that? I have doen alotta work on acoustic guitars and i believe that it goes: bridge, nut, fret material, bracing system, topwood, bodyshape, back and side wood, and then pins... in that order. You seem to know what you're talkin about tho so id love to hear more

edit: *looks at site* oh you are a performing musician... thats awesome
hey thanks for checking out the site...you're pretty much dead on regarding your order for the way sound is affected with guitar components. I referenced the saddle, pins, and nut in that order because those are the components that are the most user friendly to change...since we obviously cant change the woods or body shape without buying a whole new guitar! So, sorry for the confusion! That site provides all the info you'll need regarding the benefits of nuts, saddles, and pins...Taylor relies on Tusq saddles and nuts, while Martin relies on Micarta or Corian saddles and nuts. These are synthetic (or man-made) components that are petroleum, oil-based products. In essence, they are cheap plastic parts. Taylor and Martin uses this because they produced over 150,000 guitars combined each year. The cost of using plastic , man-made products is quite cheap, as opposed to using higher quality but more expensive bone or ivory. It's just business, really, and when you sell as many guitars as they do, saving $100,000 in guitar parts each year helps pay the bills! So, changing to bone or EI (Elephant Ivory) or FWI are great additions to any guitar. Like I said, these are the components that are the most user friendly and changeable...

As far as myself, I am a performing musician touring the North East. I struck up the endorsement deal, and man did I get lucky with that. My most notable achievement was landing the opening track on a 50,000 cd sampler produced by MTV, called "In the Wash"...my band even landed the first track on the album! You can read more about that at http://www.inthewash.net

Let me know what you think!

P.S. http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... hp?t=56190
so are u signed?
I only have contracts with the above website (endorsement), Boring Alice Management Co. (management), and FYE (distribution). As for the "real" contract, that hopefully will come after the next album is released...hoping and praying I guess, but we've met some pretty cool people and some professional musicians along the way. Our last show we played with Cake, so that was pretty cool, and this past summer they put us on a bill with Blues Traveler.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:31 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:hey t714... why would you modify a DM3MD...? thats like hoppin up the batmobile. (and btw those fossilized walrus tusk pins are crazy exspensive, but you know that) do they change the sound, cause i cant see any reason to but them over plastic ones... and i did the math you can get 168 plastic pins for the price of one set up walrus! im jealous
the modifications were easy, and the guitar can be returned to stock in 15 minutes...Regarding the fossilized walrus pins, I have an endorsement deal with http://www.guitarsaddles.com So, I get my pins for a discounted rate. You can see my endorsement by visiting that link and clicking on "Matt" in the lower right portion of that page. FWI bridge pins increase clarity, sustain, and help bring out the subtle overtones of the guitar. Remember, the biggest contributor in the transfer of sound (other than the saddle) is your bridge pins and your nut, in that order. Besides, the pins are beautiful and I had them custom inlayed with padauk (the same wood used on the DM3MD). So they look beautiful.

As far as the tuners, Waverly (arguably) are the best tuning machines out there. The tuners that come on the DM3MD are really worth $25, and you can pick up a set at http://www.stew-mac.com They were a little tougher to turn, and I use .13 gauge medium strings, so I needed the best tuners with the best turning ratio as possible. Waverlies were the way to go!

But getting back to those pins, check out that link, and there's a picture of me and my Chet Atkins SST. Its a cool site, and you can read all about the benefits of FWI and bone nuts, saddles, and bridge pins!
dude... thats awesome... endorsement... are you a performing musician, or a corporate whore? either way thats mad cool

the pins affect sound more than the nut? where did you hear that? I have doen alotta work on acoustic guitars and i believe that it goes: bridge, nut, fret material, bracing system, topwood, bodyshape, back and side wood, and then pins... in that order. You seem to know what you're talkin about tho so id love to hear more

edit: *looks at site* oh you are a performing musician... thats awesome
hey thanks for checking out the site...you're pretty much dead on regarding your order for the way sound is affected with guitar components. I referenced the saddle, pins, and nut in that order because those are the components that are the most user friendly to change...since we obviously cant change the woods or body shape without buying a whole new guitar! So, sorry for the confusion! That site provides all the info you'll need regarding the benefits of nuts, saddles, and pins...Taylor relies on Tusq saddles and nuts, while Martin relies on Micarta or Corian saddles and nuts. These are synthetic (or man-made) components that are petroleum, oil-based products. In essence, they are cheap plastic parts. Taylor and Martin uses this because they produced over 150,000 guitars combined each year. The cost of using plastic , man-made products is quite cheap, as opposed to using higher quality but more expensive bone or ivory. It's just business, really, and when you sell as many guitars as they do, saving $100,000 in guitar parts each year helps pay the bills! So, changing to bone or EI (Elephant Ivory) or FWI are great additions to any guitar. Like I said, these are the components that are the most user friendly and changeable...

As far as myself, I am a performing musician touring the North East. I struck up the endorsement deal, and man did I get lucky with that. My most notable achievement was landing the opening track on a 50,000 cd sampler produced by MTV, called "In the Wash"...my band even landed the first track on the album! You can read more about that at http://www.inthewash.net

Let me know what you think!

P.S. http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... hp?t=56190
so are u signed?
Not signed as of yet, I've just signed the endorsement deal and my band is signed to a management company and distribution contracts with FYE. The "real" contract, hopefully, will come!
nice job man and good luck
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Unread post by T714 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:42 pm

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nice job man and good luck[/quote]

Thanks Man

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Unread post by Mjazk26 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:01 pm

Cake is a great band and they put on a good show. I bet they were fun as hell to hang out with.
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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:59 pm

i got so damn close to playing a chet im almost certain dave owned...

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