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Unread post by mangold » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:19 pm

alphatabs wrote:
praisedave wrote:plus, experienced artists such as dave tend to lean towards high quality equipment. if you're goin for a similira sound why not look into what they're playin?
that's what i'm talking about. people listen to artists and buy what they buy, never trying anything else. look at this washburn:

http://www.music123.com/Washburn-WD56SW-i129744.music

It's an all solid wood guitar and it looks stunning! I don't think anyone here should badmouth it unless they've played it. It even comes with a hardshell case. You cannot find a better deal than that. i've never seen such a great looking guitar and the wood is selected for the perfect sound.
i havent played that, but i will say its ugly. those inlays look like little poop mounds! :lol:

seriously tho, i dont think there is anyone out there that plays a guitar and says to themselves "I hate the way that guitar plays, sounds, and looks... but dave plays it so ill buy it." they are always happy with the way the instrument plays, and if they're happy, who cares if they could have gotten a better guitar for less.
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Unread post by alphatabs » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:44 pm

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alphatabs wrote:
praisedave wrote:plus, experienced artists such as dave tend to lean towards high quality equipment. if you're goin for a similira sound why not look into what they're playin?
that's what i'm talking about. people listen to artists and buy what they buy, never trying anything else. look at this washburn:

http://www.music123.com/Washburn-WD56SW-i129744.music

It's an all solid wood guitar and it looks stunning! I don't think anyone here should badmouth it unless they've played it. It even comes with a hardshell case. You cannot find a better deal than that. i've never seen such a great looking guitar and the wood is selected for the perfect sound.
i havent played that, but i will say its ugly. those inlays look like little poop mounds! :lol:

seriously tho, i dont think there is anyone out there that plays a guitar and says to themselves "I hate the way that guitar plays, sounds, and looks... but dave plays it so ill buy it." they are always happy with the way the instrument plays, and if they're happy, who cares if they could have gotten a better guitar for less.
yeah, the inlay's do look like crap but they do make many with dot inlays. THOSE looks pretty nice. i like the way it has the outline of silver around the body. guitars that don't look horrible in my opinion. it's like they're naked or somethin. :shock:

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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:35 pm

no you see, for every 914ce and 714ce, and every chet, and every guitar one of favorite guitarists has played, i play about 100 differnt others, from different brands, face it man, theres allot of shit out there, i mean like shit, fuckin cheeseburgers trying to pose as guitars.... havent played THAT washburn, but the ones i have i was not impressed, and thought they were highly over priced.

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Unread post by hcole » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:18 pm

Here's what praisedave had to say in a previous thread
praisedave wrote: PRS makes a fantastic guitar, probably the best mass production electrics in the world, but hand builts will always be better, theres no avoiding it. im glad hes happy with his guitar, thats all that is important i just thought id mention that for that amount of money there are better guitars to be bought.
the same could be said about Taylor or Martin. Do they make great instruments sure. For the same price as a 914 or HD-35 could you get a better instrument? In my opinion yes. One of the big reasons alot of artists play Taylor and Martin (and other mass produced guitars) is that hey are readily available wherever they go. If by some freak accident Dave is out on the road and all his guitars are destroyed he could replace them with something nearly identical in a matter of hours. He was playing a guitar that was custom built by an individual luthier it would be next to impossible to get one in a timely manner. So get off of alphatabs back and off of Dave's sack.

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Unread post by alphatabs » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:23 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:no you see, for every 914ce and 714ce, and every chet, and every guitar one of favorite guitarists has played, i play about 100 differnt others, from different brands, face it man, theres allot of shit out there, i mean like shit, fuckin cheeseburgers trying to pose as guitars.... havent played THAT washburn, but the ones i have i was not impressed, and thought they were highly over priced.
I'm in no way a Washburn fanboy, but I've never seen an overpriced Washburn. I'm accually in the process of buying a full sized dreadnaught and i'm so perplexed on what to get. I've played many Artwood's as well as Martin's but I myself cannot afford a Martin at the time. If i had that kind of scratch i would by one but I'm not OVERLY impressed with one. I can only afford an Artwood or Washburn in the 500 dollar range and I've seen many guitars in that range as well as low end Martins. I've found myself to be dissapointed with low end martins. My uncle has a D-28 that's the shiznit though. The thing i'm not processing here is how you can throw out so much more cash for a guitar that's more or less the same as a $500 guitar.

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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:25 pm

were not insulting alphatabs, and we know theres better stuff than taylor... but he says the only reason people buy taylors and martins and the like is because dave and people use them... and then he uses a washburn to try to show a better product, ive played a 914, and a 714, both kill that washburn, some of the higher breedloves ive played, kill the taylors... i know theres better, but theyre still good instruments, and if and when i get one, its not cause dave plays one.

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filmdude100cms wrote:were not insulting alphatabs, and we know theres better stuff than taylor... but he says the only reason people buy taylors and martins and the like is because dave and people use them... and then he uses a washburn to try to show a better product, ive played a 914, and a 714, both kill that washburn, some of the higher breedloves ive played, kill the taylors... i know theres better, but theyre still good instruments, and if and when i get one, its not cause dave plays one.
:( yal hurt my fillins. lol, jk. I understand that Taylor guitars are awsome. And i can see why you guys love them so much. you are the kind of people who have been around and found what you want. no matter what guitar you have, there is always going to be something better. maybe using washburn as a comparison isn't so great but i'm just trying to open your minds. it's all about personal opinion baby! as of right now i play a Talman, (insert insult here) and I prefer it over a Chet in many ways, but that's neither here nor there.

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Unread post by Trippin Hillbilly » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:02 pm

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DontPanic89 wrote:The cheapest martin is a DXM it's about $620, that is a good guitar, i've played one before
what ever you say. ya.. its alright. But for me i guess, im just a picky bitch... when i get a martin.. IM GETTING A M*A*R*T*I*N!!!
a bling blingin-whole in my wallet- fancy shmancy-HD something or other-rich person's overly expensive guitar.
Is that the technical name for my hd-35? :lol:






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Unread post by alphatabs » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:07 pm

Trippin Hillbilly wrote:
gumbomadness wrote:
DontPanic89 wrote:The cheapest martin is a DXM it's about $620, that is a good guitar, i've played one before
what ever you say. ya.. its alright. But for me i guess, im just a picky bitch... when i get a martin.. IM GETTING A M*A*R*T*I*N!!!
a bling blingin-whole in my wallet- fancy shmancy-HD something or other-rich person's overly expensive guitar.
Is that the technical name for my hd-35? :lol:






please change your av..
ya see he's right. you have to get fancy shmancy with it before it's a REAL martin. those 600 dollar cardboard martin's don't count! :P

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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:09 pm

alphatabs wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:were not insulting alphatabs, and we know theres better stuff than taylor... but he says the only reason people buy taylors and martins and the like is because dave and people use them... and then he uses a washburn to try to show a better product, ive played a 914, and a 714, both kill that washburn, some of the higher breedloves ive played, kill the taylors... i know theres better, but theyre still good instruments, and if and when i get one, its not cause dave plays one.
:( yal hurt my fillins. lol, jk. I understand that Taylor guitars are awsome. And i can see why you guys love them so much. you are the kind of people who have been around and found what you want. no matter what guitar you have, there is always going to be something better. maybe using washburn as a comparison isn't so great but i'm just trying to open your minds. it's all about personal opinion baby! as of right now i play a Talman, (insert insult here) and I prefer it over a Chet in many ways, but that's neither here nor there.
yeah man, im prolly gonna get an epi chet soon, and then start buildin my own, cause i mean theres allot of ideas i have, and i cant get those, under around $6000... making it, i can do it for much less, and be able to say "bitch... i made that fucker."

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Unread post by alphatabs » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:23 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:
alphatabs wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:were not insulting alphatabs, and we know theres better stuff than taylor... but he says the only reason people buy taylors and martins and the like is because dave and people use them... and then he uses a washburn to try to show a better product, ive played a 914, and a 714, both kill that washburn, some of the higher breedloves ive played, kill the taylors... i know theres better, but theyre still good instruments, and if and when i get one, its not cause dave plays one.
:( yal hurt my fillins. lol, jk. I understand that Taylor guitars are awsome. And i can see why you guys love them so much. you are the kind of people who have been around and found what you want. no matter what guitar you have, there is always going to be something better. maybe using washburn as a comparison isn't so great but i'm just trying to open your minds. it's all about personal opinion baby! as of right now i play a Talman, (insert insult here) and I prefer it over a Chet in many ways, but that's neither here nor there.
yeah man, im prolly gonna get an epi chet soon, and then start buildin my own, cause i mean theres allot of ideas i have, and i cant get those, under around $6000... making it, i can do it for much less, and be able to say "bitch... i made that fucker."
hell yeah, you'll get major props for that. If i didn't already have a guitar in the whole "mobile acoustic" catagory i would get a chet becuase they kick an ovations ass.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:29 pm

hcole wrote:Here's what praisedave had to say in a previous thread
praisedave wrote: PRS makes a fantastic guitar, probably the best mass production electrics in the world, but hand builts will always be better, theres no avoiding it. im glad hes happy with his guitar, thats all that is important i just thought id mention that for that amount of money there are better guitars to be bought.
the same could be said about Taylor or Martin. Do they make great instruments sure. For the same price as a 914 or HD-35 could you get a better instrument? In my opinion yes. One of the big reasons alot of artists play Taylor and Martin (and other mass produced guitars) is that hey are readily available wherever they go. If by some freak accident Dave is out on the road and all his guitars are destroyed he could replace them with something nearly identical in a matter of hours. He was playing a guitar that was custom built by an individual luthier it would be next to impossible to get one in a timely manner. So get off of alphatabs back and off of Dave's sack.
hey hey hey... im not on alphas back, we're having a nice conversation. nor am i on daves sack, i dont play on that side of the fence.

i comletely agree with what you're saying, if you'll notice i said that martin and taylor make the bast MASS PRODUCED acoustics in the world. and they do. customs will always be better and i believe there was a thread before this that went a similar directioan about a month ago, look it up if you'd like.

good work on finding my post btw!
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Unread post by filmdude100cms » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:30 pm

alphatabs wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
alphatabs wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:were not insulting alphatabs, and we know theres better stuff than taylor... but he says the only reason people buy taylors and martins and the like is because dave and people use them... and then he uses a washburn to try to show a better product, ive played a 914, and a 714, both kill that washburn, some of the higher breedloves ive played, kill the taylors... i know theres better, but theyre still good instruments, and if and when i get one, its not cause dave plays one.
:( yal hurt my fillins. lol, jk. I understand that Taylor guitars are awsome. And i can see why you guys love them so much. you are the kind of people who have been around and found what you want. no matter what guitar you have, there is always going to be something better. maybe using washburn as a comparison isn't so great but i'm just trying to open your minds. it's all about personal opinion baby! as of right now i play a Talman, (insert insult here) and I prefer it over a Chet in many ways, but that's neither here nor there.
yeah man, im prolly gonna get an epi chet soon, and then start buildin my own, cause i mean theres allot of ideas i have, and i cant get those, under around $6000... making it, i can do it for much less, and be able to say "bitch... i made that fucker."
hell yeah, you'll get major props for that. If i didn't already have a guitar in the whole "mobile acoustic" catagory i would get a chet becuase they kick an ovations ass.
yeah i figure the chet is the way to go, cause the first guitar im buildin an acoustic, and im getting a 100 watt acoustic amp really soon, with effects, and i figure nows the time to get the chet i wanted. ive got soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many plans for my guitars though.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:32 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:
alphatabs wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:were not insulting alphatabs, and we know theres better stuff than taylor... but he says the only reason people buy taylors and martins and the like is because dave and people use them... and then he uses a washburn to try to show a better product, ive played a 914, and a 714, both kill that washburn, some of the higher breedloves ive played, kill the taylors... i know theres better, but theyre still good instruments, and if and when i get one, its not cause dave plays one.
:( yal hurt my fillins. lol, jk. I understand that Taylor guitars are awsome. And i can see why you guys love them so much. you are the kind of people who have been around and found what you want. no matter what guitar you have, there is always going to be something better. maybe using washburn as a comparison isn't so great but i'm just trying to open your minds. it's all about personal opinion baby! as of right now i play a Talman, (insert insult here) and I prefer it over a Chet in many ways, but that's neither here nor there.
yeah man, im prolly gonna get an epi chet soon, and then start buildin my own, cause i mean theres allot of ideas i have, and i cant get those, under around $6000... making it, i can do it for much less, and be able to say "bitch... i made that fucker."
hahah bitch i made that fucker.... AHAHAHAHAHA
im gonna build me an acoustic too, got all the plans, goin down straight strizzle on spring breakizzle
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