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duluoz · Unread post by **duluoz** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:09 pm

Yeah, I gotta agree with gcom on the Taylor fad deal. I think people are putting way too much faith in what they're favorite musician plays. Sometimes I wonder if they even listen to the true tone that they get or just con themselves into thinking it sounds great because so-and-so plays it. Get what sounds the absolute best to you, not because dave plays it or just because it has some exotic sounding tone wood in it (where the hell did cocobolo come from? it sounds like a breakfast cereal)

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:12 pm

i first went to sam ash about 8 months ago, and i played both taylors and martins. i hadnt heard of either of them. i played the taylors and i loved em. they blew me away.

what stores do you go to that say dave is the reason for taylors being so popular? taylors just keep getting better. people say they dont like taylors bass response. taylor revoices them. people love taylors sound on stage, taylor makes the ES and makes it even better. dave had barely any sway on consumers when it comes to taylors.

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:13 pm

duluoz wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree with gcom on the Taylor fad deal. I think people are putting way too much faith in what they're favorite musician plays. Sometimes I wonder if they even listen to the true tone that they get or just con themselves into thinking it sounds great because so-and-so plays it. Get what sounds the absolute best to you, not because dave plays it or just because it has some exotic sounding tone wood in it (where the hell did cocobolo come from? it sounds like a breakfast cereal)

cocobolo is my favorite tonewood.... member of the rosewood family.. its the best sounding wood ive ever played..

MattyTrane · Unread post by **MattyTrane** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:14 pm

duluoz wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree with gcom on the Taylor fad deal. I think people are putting way too much faith in what they're favorite musician plays. Sometimes I wonder if they even listen to the true tone that they get or just con themselves into thinking it sounds great because so-and-so plays it. Get what sounds the absolute best to you, not because dave plays it or just because it has some exotic sounding tone wood in it (where the hell did cocobolo come from? it sounds like a breakfast cereal)

Yumm cocobolo for breakfast!
yea, just play what you like.. that simple

Links2131 · Unread post by **Links2131** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:45 pm

Well for a person that owns a martin and likes it the only reason im going I'm thinking about a taylor is because its the next step up in my price range, however I did find a deal on a d-35 today so I might take that are working a bit more.

ElGuitarrista · Unread post by **ElGuitarrista** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:30 pm

The 414 and HD35 are really two different sorts of guitars.

The 414 summer rosewood limited has electronics, the HD35 does not. If the 414 didn't have electronics, it would sell for a few hunderd less... in fact maybe about 60% of what the HD35 costs.

Also, the HD35 is a dred... so it will have more boom... the grand auditorium 414 probably has more defined highs. I see the 414 more as a stage guitar... you know, playing in a band vs. playing solo.

Also, the 414 has a 1 3/4" neck vs. 1 11/16 on the HD35. Most fingerstyle players would prefer the larger neck on the 414. But if you want to play fast riffs, the smaller neck is probably easier.

That being said, I currently own a 514ce and am looking to pick up a Martin dred. They're both great guitars.

ElGuitarrista.

gcom007 · Unread post by **gcom007** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 4:14 pm

jkanter wrote:
gcom007 wrote:
shane wrote:gcom... umm... no?

Dave hasnt been playing Taylors that long, Taylor has been popular much longer than that. the 30th anniversary is coming up and theyre the dominating guitar company, just like they were when the 25th anniversary rolled around.
if you don't think there's some correlation to the popularity of taylor's among young people and Dave Matthews playing them, you're kidding yourself. Even the stores will tell you that.
You read my post in the Elixir thread? Just wanted to draw your attention to it...peace

check.

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 8:04 pm

Gcom, I bought a 310, but I might be the only one here with a dread :lol:

Anywho, I personally just want to play as a hobby, therefore I thought the dread would be a good idea because it is pretty loud, and I really don't think I will ever play in a band. DMB is really the only "acoustic" band I like besides OAR (no comments from Gcom please!). I would find myself maybe playing a few shows with another guitarist, or a singer. Anyway, I just thought a dread suited my style more. I also don't fingerpick much. As for my 310, what do you think the best guitar for $650 would be???? A D-15, I personally cannot stand the mahogany's sound. Too much for me. So when I ran across ElGuitarrista selling his 310 for $650, I jumped all over it. BYE.

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 8:08 pm

i love dreads, in fact, id choose a revoiced dread over a GA. both of my acoustics are dreads (im lucky to have a 12 string dread) and theyre great for everything. they may not suit fingerpicking as well as a GA but i think its worth the sacrifice.

duluoz · Unread post by **duluoz** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 8:19 pm

I got me a dread, man. A D-15 actually, I just like their sound, they work for me. I fingerpick and all that on it too, I'm not gonna let the fact that I own a dread halt me from that. Look at Charlie Parker, he played on plastic saxophones at one point.

QuattroDore · Unread post by **QuattroDore** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 8:31 pm

I'm getting a Martin because that's what jkanter plays. :wink:

Jimi Hendrix played a strat. Jimmy page prefers Les Paul. Its all subjective since they are obviously both great manufacturers.

(whispers) Martins are better. :twisted:

gcom007 · Unread post by **gcom007** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:26 pm

BigSpeen3436 wrote:Gcom, I bought a 310, but I might be the only one here with a dread Anywho, I personally just want to play as a hobby, therefore I thought the dread would be a good idea because it is pretty loud, and I really don't think I will ever play in a band. DMB is really the only "acoustic" band I like besides OAR (no comments from Gcom please!). I would find myself maybe playing a few shows with another guitarist, or a singer. Anyway, I just thought a dread suited my style more. I also don't fingerpick much. As for my 310, what do you think the best guitar for $650 would be???? A D-15, I personally cannot stand the mahogany's sound. Too much for me. So when I ran across ElGuitarrista selling his 310 for $650, I jumped all over it. BYE.

my name is elliot, and guess what kind of taylor I have...

firedancer0341 · Unread post by **firedancer0341** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:57 pm

im looking at a 414ce rosewood limited right now. a guy is trying to sell me one for 1650. someone said people are getting them for 1195? or is that a 414 rosewood limited without cutaway and electronics? anyone have any advice on how i can get a fair deal on this guitar? or any other taylors i should look at below 2000? thanks for the help.

kenton

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:37 am

gcom007 wrote:b/c Taylor's are trendy right now, dave matthews primarily plays a taylor, he drives most acoustic guitarists, notice how everyone gets 14 models??? oh yeah, that's what dave plays. remember how everyone wanted a chet atkins? yeah, umm, I got one a couple months back for use with an electric amp to get some dirty acoustic tones, and I'm sorry, but that guitar sucks colossally. it's by far one of the worst sounding guitars I've heard. not only that, the finished neck is just a pain to play. it's all relative to one thing: Dave Matthews. If Dave started playing Takamines more, I guarantee you that Taylor guitars would drop off the map and everyone would be getting Taks.

everyone buys a 14 model cause dave has one, or maybe dave buys them because they are nice?

people buy taylors because dave has one, or dave buys taylors because they sound good?

honestly, HONESTLY, let's look at something here. you seem to resent the man with every fiber of your being, and spend most of your time ripping on him, but yet you are doing it on a dmb fansite which is dedicated to learning songs that you hate to perfection. why???? it's certainly not for our educational benefit. you could use all of your bitter energy for something way more productive...like form a band and get popular, and then denounce taylor and watch their sales plummet.

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:38 am

and btw i bought my taylor because my roommate has one and i liked it. 8)

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