help learning the violin

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help learning the violin

Unread post by paulaitchison » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:06 pm

i just orders a stagg electric violin.
ive never played but my guitar playing aint to bad. i picked up my mums chello and was playing some tunes 10 min later...and bojd is sometimes off but gets away with it.

the thing is it doesnt have threts, i was thinking. if i put a dot of paint etc where each new note is (and made vertual frets) to learn by, would (so long as i always tuned it the same.) that work like a guitar or do the strings strech and warp overtime causing the differnt notes to move location slightly

thanks in advance for any pointers or suggestion......or if anone knows where to get free info or lessions on line etc
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Unread post by Kahn » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:07 pm

first off, its frets, not threts. :wink:

just use a thin strip of tape so you can take it off later when you're muscel memory begins taking control.

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Unread post by paulaitchison » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:11 pm

sory for spelling, just got back from the pub ;)

do you know roughtly how far appart each note is...... if i use tape will the whole fingerboard be coverd or are they quite spread?

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Unread post by fatjack » Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:30 pm

i don't play violin, but i do know that using something to mark where a note is is usually frowned upon and considered a crutch that will lead to poor technique. learning the proper way will teach you more and develop your ear

it takes a LOT of patience to learn how to play instruments in the violin family. its not like guitar where you can learn pretty quickly. it will take discipline and patience to get far, and a lot of time and practice.

i don't mean to discourage, just letting you know that you've just bought a difficult instrument to play well

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Unread post by mangold » Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:44 pm

yeh with the violin you also need to focus on having correct placement and doing that wiggly finger shit (vibrato?) to sound decent, frets are a big advantage when it comes to learning an instrument quickly
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Unread post by DRMusic » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:46 pm

fatjack wrote:i don't play violin, but i do know that using something to mark where a note is is usually frowned upon and considered a crutch that will lead to poor technique. learning the proper way will teach you more and develop your ear

it takes a LOT of patience to learn how to play instruments in the violin family. its not like guitar where you can learn pretty quickly. it will take discipline and patience to get far, and a lot of time and practice.

i don't mean to discourage, just letting you know that you've just bought a difficult instrument to play well
forget the tape. learn by ear

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Unread post by Grachi » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:26 am

praisedave wrote:yeh with the violin you also need to focus on having correct placement and doing that wiggly finger shit (vibrato?) to sound decent, frets are a big advantage when it comes to learning an instrument quickly
That is classic :lol:

But ya. I knew this girl in High School she had been playing violin for like 10 years. She is disgustingly good and can play any DMB song if Boyd has been in it. It was awesome. I told her I had started to play guitar a few months ago (this was awhile ago almost been playing a year now) and she was telling me that when she was little and shit (she's 18 now so she started at like 8) and just told me like she had like 3 different teachers and like did it in school and just practiced the shit out of the violin.

But it pays off. 10 years later I think she could honestly be like in a symphony one day.

PS: She's really good at that wiggly finger shit
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Unread post by paulaitchison » Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:44 am

i think i will try the tape method for the first week or so but get rid of them as soon as is possible, so as not to learn that way... i really just want to play a few lines over my recordings, memorise the BTCS crush solo, and pizz out two step and american baby intros
does anyone know weather the next note up is the same distance on every string (ie the same marker for each sting, excatly like a thret, or does it vairy with each string it)
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Unread post by Kahn » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:23 am

1) fret
2) I like your AV :lol:
3) no, notes aren't the same space apart, just like they aren't on a guitar. Either take a few lessons or sound it out yourself.

Edit: I see what your saying I misread it. The tape wont be in a set distance down the neck (voilin?) but they will be for each string if that makes sense.

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Unread post by ericwormann » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:00 pm

Just so you know, I've heard that the violin is the hardest instrument to learn. But if you're aiming for Boyd Tinsley (who's kind of sloppy) it's not AS hard I guess.

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Unread post by paulaitchison » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:54 am

fret......got it, (slightly more sober now but its hard.......its henley reggatta at the moment over here)

as for the AV :) its immature i know but i still find the starwars kid funny.

i think your right it will be danm hard, but im hoping i can do the pizz bits (see how long i can strum the two step bit for without getting tired or lossing pace)
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