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Unread post by mangold » Mon May 16, 2005 11:29 pm

juineaux wrote:
praisedave wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
praisedave wrote:
CWMCALL wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
I have to disagree

I have a
Taylor 314ce limited koa - spruce top with koa back and sides
Epiphone Hummingbird - spruce top with Mahogany back and sides
Martin D-15 - Mahogany top, back and sides

the Martin with the Mahogany top gets most of my attention...
if we're talking mahoghany of the saepele nature than its a different story... and to be fair you are comparing it to a koa and an epiphone :wink:
um my guitar has koa back and sides so watch it...

and always remeber on woods, the price has nothing to do with the quaility, its all about tone. rosewood is more expensivce because its rarer. so never look at price for quality.
oh koa is fine as a backwood and sidewood, but using it for a top is like building a cars engine out of gold... sure it looks pretty and its exspesive, but it just dont perform
I agree that most of the koa topped guitars don't really perform, but every once in a while you will hear one that is absolutely amazing. This was probably one of the best acoustics I've ever played....but at $4,800(used price!!) it better be-
sorry to get off topic(but drool):

http://s94451478.onlinehome.us/koafroggybottom.bmp
Ive heard froggy bottom makes some TOP guitars. id love to compare that one to some other acoutics, cuz all the koa tops ive heard (3) were very trebbly and empty imo
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Unread post by juineaux » Mon May 16, 2005 11:40 pm

praisedave wrote:
juineaux wrote:
praisedave wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
praisedave wrote:
CWMCALL wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
I have to disagree

I have a
Taylor 314ce limited koa - spruce top with koa back and sides
Epiphone Hummingbird - spruce top with Mahogany back and sides
Martin D-15 - Mahogany top, back and sides

the Martin with the Mahogany top gets most of my attention...
if we're talking mahoghany of the saepele nature than its a different story... and to be fair you are comparing it to a koa and an epiphone :wink:
um my guitar has koa back and sides so watch it...

and always remeber on woods, the price has nothing to do with the quaility, its all about tone. rosewood is more expensivce because its rarer. so never look at price for quality.
oh koa is fine as a backwood and sidewood, but using it for a top is like building a cars engine out of gold... sure it looks pretty and its exspesive, but it just dont perform
I agree that most of the koa topped guitars don't really perform, but every once in a while you will hear one that is absolutely amazing. This was probably one of the best acoustics I've ever played....but at $4,800(used price!!) it better be-
sorry to get off topic(but drool):

http://s94451478.onlinehome.us/koafroggybottom.bmp
Ive heard froggy bottom makes some TOP guitars. id love to compare that one to some other acoutics, cuz all the koa tops ive heard (3) were very trebbly and empty imo
yea that "emptieness" is what I ussauly hear from most of them too.

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Unread post by EnFuego » Thu May 19, 2005 5:57 pm

bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
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Unread post by mangold » Thu May 19, 2005 8:58 pm

EnFuego wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
does someone feel inclined to explain said sigh?
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Unread post by MWR » Thu May 19, 2005 9:30 pm

praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
does someone feel inclined to explain said sigh?
I'll take the pepsi challenge with a Spruce/Rosewood guitar any day. I'm still consistantly surprised by how good my D15 sounds. My only qualm is that it seriously lacks overtones which would be a big plus for the kind of things I play. Otherwise it sounds great and I'm rarely impressed by guitars costing 4X as much.

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Unread post by mangold » Thu May 19, 2005 9:32 pm

MWR wrote:
praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
does someone feel inclined to explain said sigh?
I'll take the pepsi challenge with a Spruce/Rosewood guitar any day. I'm still consistantly surprised by how good my D15 sounds. My only qualm is that it seriously lacks overtones which would be a big plus for the kind of things I play. Otherwise it sounds great and I'm rarely impressed by guitars costing 4X as much.
i think the best sounding guitars out there are larrivee 03s which come it from 700-1000 bucks... ive played handbuilt breedloves that cost 4 times that much and im not impressed
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Unread post by Kahn » Fri May 20, 2005 9:56 am

Larrivee 10's are heaven.

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Unread post by EnFuego » Tue May 24, 2005 10:51 pm

praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
does someone feel inclined to explain said sigh?
My larrivee OM-05 mahogony top guitar is one of the best sounding guitars that I have heard. I played it against many rosewoods, and liked the sounds better, but to each his own. I personally love the sound that I get out of it, and considering that I spent around 900 for it brand new. I'm not saying that there aren't better sounding guitars out there, but I personally think that the mahogony topped guitars that I have played sound great for the most part (larrivee OM -05, D-05, Martin D-15 all mahogony topped).
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Unread post by djs488 » Wed May 25, 2005 1:47 pm

This may be strictly for Martins (though I would think wood is wood, and would sounds the same no matter the manufacturer), but their custom catalog pdf they list a buncha different types of woods available for sides and backs, and then tops, and what their tone are comparitively. Heres the link: http://www.martinguitar.com/catalog/PDF ... 20Shop.pdf (It's on page 3)

There are two entries for Mahogany, figured and genuine...

Figured Mahogany:
Beautiful and rare (often quilted) variety of genuine mahogany occurs in a very small percentage of mahogany trees. Though difficult to bend, figured mahogany shares the same tonal properties of the unfigured mahogany.

Genuine Mahogany:
Much lighter in weight than rosewood, koa, or maple. Yields a surprisingly strong, loud sound with emphasis on clear, bright airy trebles.
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Unread post by mangold » Wed May 25, 2005 7:26 pm

EnFuego wrote:
praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
does someone feel inclined to explain said sigh?
My larrivee OM-05 mahogony top guitar is one of the best sounding guitars that I have heard. I played it against many rosewoods, and liked the sounds better, but to each his own. I personally love the sound that I get out of it, and considering that I spent around 900 for it brand new. I'm not saying that there aren't better sounding guitars out there, but I personally think that the mahogony topped guitars that I have played sound great for the most part (larrivee OM -05, D-05, Martin D-15 all mahogony topped).
so you sighed at my opinion? i like cedar tops best, then spruce, then mahog
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Unread post by EnFuego » Thu May 26, 2005 2:42 pm

praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
does someone feel inclined to explain said sigh?
My larrivee OM-05 mahogony top guitar is one of the best sounding guitars that I have heard. I played it against many rosewoods, and liked the sounds better, but to each his own. I personally love the sound that I get out of it, and considering that I spent around 900 for it brand new. I'm not saying that there aren't better sounding guitars out there, but I personally think that the mahogony topped guitars that I have played sound great for the most part (larrivee OM -05, D-05, Martin D-15 all mahogony topped).
so you sighed at my opinion? i like cedar tops best, then spruce, then mahog
you asked either me or bbatsell to explain the "said sigh" so i did. i just don't see hwo you could say that mahogony tops are bad, but as i said when i felt inclined to explain the said sigh, we all have opinions. You just hadn't bothered to explain yours (unless i missed it). no problem, don't get your panties in a bunch.
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Unread post by mangold » Fri May 27, 2005 1:48 pm

EnFuego wrote:
praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
praisedave wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh mahog tops are bad imo but as back and sides its my fave tone wood
sigh
i'll second that sigh
does someone feel inclined to explain said sigh?
My larrivee OM-05 mahogony top guitar is one of the best sounding guitars that I have heard. I played it against many rosewoods, and liked the sounds better, but to each his own. I personally love the sound that I get out of it, and considering that I spent around 900 for it brand new. I'm not saying that there aren't better sounding guitars out there, but I personally think that the mahogony topped guitars that I have played sound great for the most part (larrivee OM -05, D-05, Martin D-15 all mahogony topped).
so you sighed at my opinion? i like cedar tops best, then spruce, then mahog
you asked either me or bbatsell to explain the "said sigh" so i did. i just don't see hwo you could say that mahogony tops are bad, but as i said when i felt inclined to explain the said sigh, we all have opinions. You just hadn't bothered to explain yours (unless i missed it). no problem, don't get your panties in a bunch.
my panties are plenty aligned. ussually someone sighs when like some newb starts a thread like "does someone have a tab for crash into me?" ive only played 2 or 3 mahoghany tops and in my opinion they're way too bassy and smuggly, not enough resonance.

im all for opinions man.
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