Sort of an idea

[fede]

Bear with me, its costing me a lot of self to come up with something with my guitar... and it really frustrates me since I really want to write some music of my own.

http://download.yousendit.com/A9BEC05B4CFDC9DB

I know it sounds off (really off) but thats sort of the idea, just to check on opinions. If anyone wants to see a tab of it I'll write it.

The strumming is random yet (after that off key intro) but I guess I'll de-randomalize it later on.

Be gentle with me. Its not a final cut or anything, just something that popped up today and I sort of liked it.

It's recorded with the windows sound recorder, so quality kind of sucks. If anyone has a cool program to share, I'll humblely take it.

Thanks in advance!!

Fede

[Easy E]

it just seems really random and off key, I wouldn't want to listen to that for more than 10 seconds, and thats the key to any song. If you want to practice writing songs just start with simple keys like G or C and try to stick mostly to that key and try some different things to add your own flavor

I'll record an example in a few minutes

[Easy E]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/03t87b

Ok here is something i came up with a few weeks back, just started by strumming on some basic chords G C F


then at the 10 second mark i just changed some finger positions and turned

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E:-3-----------
B:-3-----------
G:-0-----------
D:-0-----------
A:-2-----------
E:-3-----------

into

E:-------------
B:-3-----------
G:-3-----------
D:-0----------
A:-------------
E:-3-----------

and that one little change turned the whole flavor of the chord progression, which remained unchanged after that

then I decided to try another progression to fit with that one. In the same key started with Am and the switched to E7 to keep it slightly different from the norm. Try writing songs like that first and just experiment within a key with slight variations.

You want to think outside the box, but you want the song to still be pleasing to the ear.


good luck



Eric

[lyrics101]

I hated the intro -- didn't seem to have a theme of any sort.

The riff I dug, but give it a context and a theme. If you go from that toward a major key chorus or bridge of some sort, the contrast will pull attention to the contrast between the two, and might make something cool.

[fede]

Thank you both for the advice, and sorry for that intro!!

Turns around this:

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e: ------0---------------
B: ------4-------------- <---- 1
G: ------0--------------
D: ------0--------------
A: ------6--------------- <--- 4
E: ------not played-----

My theory was that if you listened to something off key long enough, you'll get used to it. Since that's how music became music in the first place... I don't know if it makes sense.

Fede

[mbent4679]

Thank you both for the advice, and sorry for that intro!!

Turns around this:

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e: ------0---------------
B: ------4-------------- <---- 1
G: ------0--------------
D: ------0--------------
A: ------6--------------- <--- 4
E: ------not played-----

My theory was that if you listened to something off key long enough, you'll get used to it. Since that's how music became music in the first place... I don't know if it makes sense.

Fede

True but you have to build a relationship to the listener. No one gunna listen to your song long enough for it to sound good if they don't have a connection to it. The best way to go about that is write stuff with cultural roots and slowely add your own twist. I guess you could call your riffs "Ahead of it's time" but you didn't build a bridge to it. There's no logic behind what your playin. And no meaning.

I also here my heater make annoying clanking noises everyday of my life but thats not what I put into my C.D. player. Theres a psychological aspect to the waves of the tones and if they match up. There are books on it if your interested in that sort of stuff I suggest you look up on it.

[fede]

Now that you mention that thing about your heater, someone told me something about the lengh of the waves actually influencing wether a sound is either music or noise.

And I am aware it has no logic or meaning, just came up...and as it did I just posted it up here. Just to check on my start.

Fede

[mbent4679]

Now that you mention that thing about your heater, someone told me something about the lengh of the waves actually influencing wether a sound is either music or noise.

And I am aware it has no logic or meaning, just came up...and as it did I just posted it up here. Just to check on my start.

Fede

Drums? Just read the book It's interesting and indepth. And you seem interested

[lyrics101]

Lots of jazz is off key, but remember -- even off key, music is organized sound. Organize it. I'm not saying go back to the standard G-C-F riffs, or anything of that sort. Leave it off key. Why not? I'll probably like it, even if nobody else here is interested in that sort of experimentation (and believe me, there are many who are). Just... organize it.

[fede]

Thanks I'll think about it. Any pointers?

Fede

[mbent4679]

Lots of jazz is off key, but remember -- even off key, music is organized sound. Organize it. I'm not saying go back to the standard G-C-F riffs, or anything of that sort. Leave it off key. Why not? I'll probably like it, even if nobody else here is interested in that sort of experimentation (and believe me, there are many who are). Just... organize it.

I listen to a lot of jazz but you have too remember jazz was an evolution. It has a connection to people and culture. And even though your stuff may be out there there is still that connection. Maybe organization is the connection but I really don't think the intro riff has any use to it. It doesn't have any timing our anything. music could evolve to that eventuallly but not now no one will listen.

[bassman462]

melodic=music to me. there has to be some type of melody in it for me to consider it music. that's what I have a hard time with a lot of rap stuff because it's just beats, with a few notes that don't make any real melody.

[mbent4679]

Defining music is a little more complicated than that. If you get down to the bare bones of it it all depends on the majoraty of society and if your concept is recognized as music to them. The question is here is his music gunna be recognized by anybody as music. Don't get me wrong your chorus part was good but I think you went out on a limb and fell off with the verses. Give it structure make it solid if you like the chords, use them, add a rythum. People understand stucture. And listen to what lyrics says about contrast..... Important.

[lyrics101]

mu-sic
Pronunciation: \?myü-zik\
noun

1 a: the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity

[Easy E]

to be brutally honest it sounds like one of my friends picked up the guitar and just started playing random strings