copyright originals?

[T1nM4n]

jsut curoius about original songs being copyrighted, when people post originals up for critiques, do they run the risk of having there ideas stolen? and if so how do u go about copyrighting a song

sorry if this is a stupid question, i just was thinking that someone could rip ideas off hear and say they are thier own

EDIT: um...here not hear, lol

[onid41]

i already stole 4 songs from here so someone better answer the guy

[Appfro]

i talked to brock about this. i copyrighted one song cause another band wanted to use it. in generality (if that's a word) publishing a song kind of copyrights it. posting it here is a form of publishing and could be proven in a court of law that you were the first to publish it. to be safe, copyright. but it's 30 bucks a song and takes 6 months to get your certificate. brock could speak a little more intellegently about it.

and dino, it better not have been one of my songs. cause they suck and you'll never make money off of that. go for one of miguel or pat's songs

[JacknCoke]

its funny you mention that... just the other day my gf came up with this conspiracy idea, that the big top music execs and what not come on boards like these, pose as a member, and steal song ideas and get rich...i keep my ears open during commercials to see if i recognize a jingle from here or other boards i go on..

[AdamCU81]

Music gets stolen all the time. My friend in the bizz told me that record companies do have people on the net looking for material to steal. She always insist I copyright material before putting it on a website. So yes, copyright your shit. It costs $30 for a CD's worth of songs, and it's pretty easy. Go to http://www.copyright.gov , download the PA or short PA (if you're the only person on the CD) form, fill it out, and send it in.

[JacknCoke]

holy shit..my crazy woman was right for once..

[DRMusic]

the cheaper, less official but still good in court, way is just record your tunes on a cd, put the cd and printed lyrics you sign in an envelope and mail it to yourself. when it comes in the mail, don't open it, store it somewhere safe.

the post office stamp is an official notification that you created that material on that date.

better yet, mail two copies to yourself. if you actually have to go to court to prove you wrote the material, then you'll have another, unopened, copy for the future.

[hannathemanna]

if it was a good song, maybe id take a couple lines...maybe the whole song..who knows

[geekmug]

better yet, mail two copies to yourself. if you actually have to go to court to prove you wrote the material, then you'll have another, unopened, copy for the future.

In any future case, you would be able to refer to the previous case. As long as the first envelope was ruled as an accurate representation, you are opening it in front of a courtroom and a notorized transcription of the case is better than any envelope could hope to be.

But, IANAL.

[DRMusic]

better yet, mail two copies to yourself. if you actually have to go to court to prove you wrote the material, then you'll have another, unopened, copy for the future.

In any future case, you would be able to refer to the previous case. As long as the first envelope was ruled as an accurate representation, you are opening it in front of a courtroom and a notorized transcription of the case is better than any envelope could hope to be.

But, IANAL.

but does that notorized transcipt record the exact lyrics to each song along with the music? or just the contents of the package? let's say i copyright ten songs in one envelope, lyrics and music on a cd. then i have to challenge the first song two years down the road. i doubt the judge wants to take time to make a note of the music and lyrics to all other 9 songs. so what keeps me from adding material to the opened package after the case, and then saying i had it in there all along?

make 2 copies, at least.

[AdamCU81]

If you just copyright the CD you won't have to worry about any doubt in the future. If a CD of your songs isn't worth $30 to you, then you probably shouldn't worry about posting them.

[Appfro]

the cheaper, less official but still good in court, way is just record your tunes on a cd, put the cd and printed lyrics you sign in an envelope and mail it to yourself. when it comes in the mail, don't open it, store it somewhere safe.

the post office stamp is an official notification that you created that material on that date.

better yet, mail two copies to yourself. if you actually have to go to court to prove you wrote the material, then you'll have another, unopened, copy for the future.

poor man copyrights aren't holding up in some states now. if you're going to worry about it that much, get a real copyright.

[T1nM4n]

personaly i think 30 bucks for a CD's worth of copyright songs is well worth the money, thanks for all your answers you guys, i was jsut wondering cuz my and a friend jsut started an acoustic group, me and hm on guitar and another person on precussian, weve only got about 3 songs cuz we jsut fromed about a week ago and i was just a little curios of the topic

thanks

[mangold]

i think it blows that there are people in the world that would steal music. thats like stealing babies

[juineaux]

i think it blows that there are people in the world that would steal music. thats like stealing babies

yea no kidding, i really can't believe people do that