how to improve your vocals

[carter29]

I am not speaking from experiance, i never attempted singing...but it IS true that you voice sounds different to yourself becuase of the vibrations in your cheek and jaw bones. Thats why when you hear yourself on a tape recorder you say "thats what I sound like?!"

So may I suggest recording your singing, see what sounds good/bad etc.

[fatjack]

DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE YOUR VOICE WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING A PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!!!

Of course practice is a necessary thing for improving your voice, but DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT start practicing without first getting some consultation or lessons from a professional teacher! If you don't know how to properly exercise your voice, you could be doing permanent damage to your vocal cords.

Learn how to practice and exercise your voice FIRST, then get on a regular practice schedule.

You can get by just fine without a vocal coach. The most important thing that they will tell you is to get your airflow from your gut and not your chest.

For example, put your hand on your gut and now do this: sssss ssssssss sssssssss (like a snake) Feel that? That's where your airflow should be coming from and that's what should be moving when you're singing, not your rib cage.

do you really think that most people are going to be able to figure out how to do that by just your little explaination there? probably not.... so dont roll your eyes at me fuckface

you can tell someone how to do this all day long, but most people will probably need someone to actually demonstrate it to them. it doesn't necessarily have to be a vocal coach, just some who knows what they are talking about

[fatjack]

DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE YOUR VOICE WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING A PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!!!

Of course practice is a necessary thing for improving your voice, but DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT start practicing without first getting some consultation or lessons from a professional teacher! If you don't know how to properly exercise your voice, you could be doing permanent damage to your vocal cords.

Learn how to practice and exercise your voice FIRST, then get on a regular practice schedule.

What does a vocal coach teach you? I've thought about seeing one, but I didn't think it would be worth my time.....If I have bad singing habits, then I've had them for years, & it's probably to late to change anything. Right?


But I also have to suggest tons of pratice & record yourself often as well.

having listened to your recordings before, you do in fact have bad vocal habits, but you can still work on breaking them

[T1nM4n]

i dont know if this has been mentioned yet but try recording urself and then listening to it to see what it sounds like to give yourself pointers, because you sound very differnt to yourself than to other people, ive found you sound better in your own head than you really are, but i suck at singing so what do i know

[carter29]

i dont know if this has been mentioned yet but try recording urself and then listening to it to see what it sounds like to give yourself pointers, because you sound very differnt to yourself than to other people, ive found you sound better in your own head than you really are, but i suck at singing so what do i know

see above, i thought the same thing

[T1nM4n]

o ya thats what i get for not reading all the replies before i post

[jellyfish]

I record eveyy breath & note that comes from me. It can only make you better.

[whatshername]

DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE YOUR VOICE WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING A PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!!!

Of course practice is a necessary thing for improving your voice, but DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT start practicing without first getting some consultation or lessons from a professional teacher! If you don't know how to properly exercise your voice, you could be doing permanent damage to your vocal cords.

Learn how to practice and exercise your voice FIRST, then get on a regular practice schedule.

i disagree. when i first picked up guitar and attempted to sing i was pretty bad. after six years of just practicing and singing i've gotten a million times better. and matty..we've all heard some of his first recordings..his voice needed a lot of work..and a year or so later he posted new recordings and his voice had improved a ton. i'm sure he didn't hire a professional voice coach.

[Appfro]

DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE YOUR VOICE WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING A PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!!!

Of course practice is a necessary thing for improving your voice, but DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT start practicing without first getting some consultation or lessons from a professional teacher! If you don't know how to properly exercise your voice, you could be doing permanent damage to your vocal cords.

Learn how to practice and exercise your voice FIRST, then get on a regular practice schedule.

i disagree. when i first picked up guitar and attempted to sing i was pretty bad. after six years of just practicing and singing i've gotten a million times better. and matty..we've all heard some of his first recordings..his voice needed a lot of work..and a year or so later he posted new recordings and his voice had improved a ton. i'm sure he didn't hire a professional voice coach.

i agree. furthermore, i think calling one of the best vocalists on the board a fuckface and telling one of the other best vocalists on the boards that he has bad vocal habits is in fact jealous ranting. i'm sorry, but josh, i haven't read a thing from you in months that you have written that adds a positive vibe to these boards...in any forum. you constantly down people for not "knowing" as much as you do, you rant like a 4 year old on people that disagree with you and while i can't do anything about it, i've seriously had enough. nothing positive comes from your mouth, someone has something serious in their life going on, you're the only one that finds a way to down them, someone has a question, you turn it into a huge debate and call everyone that disagrees w/ you names. honestly, i'm sick of it. like i said, i can't do anything about it, but rest assured that your posts will be ignored by me from now on.

ps. how do you have the right to tell tom that he has bad vocal habits when you've NEVER posted one thing w/ your voice on it. can you even sing? allow yourself to be criticized before you criticize. [/rant][/listening to your advice on ANYTHING]

[fatjack]

DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE YOUR VOICE WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING A PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!!!

Of course practice is a necessary thing for improving your voice, but DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT start practicing without first getting some consultation or lessons from a professional teacher! If you don't know how to properly exercise your voice, you could be doing permanent damage to your vocal cords.

Learn how to practice and exercise your voice FIRST, then get on a regular practice schedule.

i disagree. when i first picked up guitar and attempted to sing i was pretty bad. after six years of just practicing and singing i've gotten a million times better. and matty..we've all heard some of his first recordings..his voice needed a lot of work..and a year or so later he posted new recordings and his voice had improved a ton. i'm sure he didn't hire a professional voice coach.

this doesn't mean that you aren't hurting your voice

you CAN sound just fine and sing perfectly on key, BUT still be improperly using your vocal chords

[fatjack]

i agree. furthermore, i think calling one of the best vocalists on the board a fuckface and telling one of the other best vocalists on the boards that he has bad vocal habits is in fact jealous ranting. i'm sorry, but josh, i haven't read a thing from you in months that you have written that adds a positive vibe to these boards...in any forum. you constantly down people for not "knowing" as much as you do, you rant like a 4 year old on people that disagree with you and while i can't do anything about it, i've seriously had enough. nothing positive comes from your mouth, someone has something serious in their life going on, you're the only one that finds a way to down them, someone has a question, you turn it into a huge debate and call everyone that disagrees w/ you names. honestly, i'm sick of it. like i said, i can't do anything about it, but rest assured that your posts will be ignored by me from now on.

ps. how do you have the right to tell tom that he has bad vocal habits when you've NEVER posted one thing w/ your voice on it. can you even sing? allow yourself to be criticized before you criticize. [/rant][/listening to your advice on ANYTHING]

i've never met a soldier who whined more than you do

first of all, did i ever say anything negative to the original poster? no. i gave my advice about a subject that i am fairly knowledgable in.

second, did i ever claim to be able to sing well? no. but as someone who has received musical education, and as someone who GIVES musical education (for 5 years in fact), i think i can safely say that i can give basic advice on the subject. can i teach someone how to sing? no. but, i do know basic principles and concepts and can point people in the right direction.

also, i have stated my opinion about tom's voice before. it has been a year or so, but he knows what i think of it.

third: i called miguel a fuckface because he rolled his eyes at my advice. it seems as if though you've created a double standard here. he can put down MY advice, but im not allowed to disagree with him?

and i actually did my vocals one time, alongside with miguel actually. i've been negatively criticized about my voice before, and not just on a messageboard of people i dont know. i have to do it almost everyday in front of my fellow classmates. so dont think that just because i dont post recordings of my voice here means i dont present it to others in REAL LIFE. i dont need to have people on a messageboard tell me i suck, i get it in my daily life enough already.

and like i just explained to whit, you CAN sing on key and sound decent without using proper technique, but you can STILL hurt your voice. you may think that tom sounds good, but i can tell from just listening that he's probably hurting his voice. i haven't listened to you in a while, but you might be doing it too. and believe or not, not even miguel is perfect all the time.

perhaps i am negative elsewhere on these boards, but not this time. you were looking for something, grasping at straws even. i make one little comment to miguel and you think that i have gone off on everyone in the thread. i dont find that very fair. i like you apps, but sometimes it seems to me like you are just waiting to take up the role of knight in shining armor

[juineaux]

you may think that tom sounds good, but i can tell from just listening that he's probably hurting his voice.

Yea, people have told me that before...but my singing has only improved(in my opinion) over the last couple of years. I put my voice through alot of stress(performing every week/singing everyday), & I've been doing this for a while now.


Aren't there alot of professional singers out there that sound like they are ruining their voices?(tom waits, ray lamontagne, kelly joe phelps, dave?)

[fatjack]

you may think that tom sounds good, but i can tell from just listening that he's probably hurting his voice.

Yea, people have told me that before...but my singing has only improved(in my opinion) over the last couple of years. I put my voice through alot of stress(performing every week/singing everyday), & I've been doing this for a while now.


Aren't there alot of professional singers out there that sound like they are ruining their voices?(tom waits, ray lamontagne, kelly joe phelps, dave?)

yes actually, i dont actually know anyone of those people other than dave, but there are many examples of famous musicians who dont sing properly. bob dylan is a good example. he could never really sing well in the first place, but you can tell his voice has gotten a LOT worse since he was younger. stevie nicks is another good example.

dave matthews actually does have some slight problems. for the most part he sings correctly, but i can recall times when his voice has gone out. fatigue is normal for someone who sings on a regular basis, but there is a difference between fatigue and damaging your voice

P.S. its good to know that you can still take my critiquing in a constructive manner everyone now just seems to think that im trying to be mean

[carter29]

man I just wanna hear more songs from juineaux

hey man, have many posted here or on a website?? I only heard 2, dieing for more man

[Appfro]

i feel like jellyfish must feel when he talks to you josh. i don't wnat to talk to you but you're always making assinine comments that i feel i have to defend.

first of all.

i've never met a soldier who whined more than you do

you've never met me, and you wouldn't know the first thing about it. but go ahead...talk out of your ass, that's cool w/ me.

second

but as someone who has received musical education, and as someone who GIVES musical education (for 5 years in fact), i think i can safely say that i can give basic advice on the subject.

you didn't just give musical advice, you told the kid not to practice until he went and got professional help in big bold italic letters like it would be the end of the world if he went out and practice a bit. then called miguel names for disagreeing (oh sorry, rolling his smiley face eyes, that must have hurt your feelings) and ignored everyone else who disagreed w/ you.

third

i called miguel a fuckface because he rolled his eyes at my advice. it seems as if though you've created a double standard here. he can put down MY advice, but im not allowed to disagree with him?

well, we've already covered the first part (the hurtful smiley face roll eyes) but no, i haven't created a double standard. my comments of you, if you read at all, were not based only on you calling miguel a fuck face. it's the fact that you have not contributed positively to these boards in a long time. ever wonder why you're getting in fights in every other thread??? well guess what buddy...you're an asshole, that's why. and you enjoy it. if i cared to take the time i could search your comments for the last couple weeks or months and come up w/ literally dozens of asshole comments that were made out of sheer love to be an asshole and a lot of which just were all out not needed. so i repeat why this isn't a double standard...months of no positive contribution to these boards.

and like i just explained to whit, you CAN sing on key and sound decent without using proper technique, but you can STILL hurt your voice. you may think that tom sounds good, but i can tell from just listening that he's probably hurting his voice. i haven't listened to you in a while, but you might be doing it too. and believe or not, not even miguel is perfect all the time.

so what does this mean, no one's allowed to sing without lesson's from a proffesional teacher! 1. i don't buy it, yes i know you can do damage to your voice but i've been singing since i was at least 8 years old and my voice still sings. if one day i go to open my mouth and nothing comes out, then i'll let you know. 2. sorry, we can't all afford or have schools w/ classes that allow you to get professional training. i'll stick to singing in my car.

perhaps i am negative elsewhere on these boards, but not this time. you were looking for something, grasping at straws even.

yea, cause if i didn't find something to get mad at you over i really was going to sink into dmbtabs oblivion. get over yourself ...oops, i forgot, you don't like the rolly eyes.

i like you apps, but sometimes it seems to me like you are just waiting to take up the role of knight in shining armor

well, you can go ahead and put me on the list of people you don't like if you want. it's cool w/ me, cause i don't feel you contribute to these boards in any positive way. i feel stupid for wasting 10 min to explain myself but i felt it needed to be done. of course, you'll have some sort of come back and it will allude to me being uneducated on the subject and the fact that i'm making wild assumptions and double standards and blah blah blah and whatever. and i'll read, and i'll want to respond, but seriously, i can't keep wasting my time on stuff like this. maybe once or twice more for old times sake. i'm not trying to be a "knight in shining armor" i disagreed w/ your opinion, so did some others, you LIKE ALWAYS make fun of us and remind us how "educated" you are on ALL musical subjects. anyway, please understand that this thread was merely the hair that broke the camel's back. i stopped reading your comments at least a week ago because everything you said seemed wildly innapropriate.