Curbside Prophet Cover... CRIT PLEASE

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:13 pm

fatjack wrote:
praisedave wrote:
fatjack wrote:
praisedave wrote:
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fatjack wrote:that was the sleepiest rap i've ever heard. have some personality if you are gonna do this kind of song

there were a few rhythmic problems with the solo, but this has probably been your best effort yet.
thanks man.
i tried adding more personality and volume to the vocals... but it just sounded crappier and crappier... so i played it safe :oops:

freeker cover is coming friday
if you have to "play it safe" it means that when you try to sing the melody, you are going off key. get some singing/ear training lessons
i dont think that i have enough vocal ability to warrant lessons
and im definetly going out of key
then what exactly are you doing to get better at singing?

start with ear training then
okay, how should i go about that exactly? i find that singing along with songs while i have one ear in the headphone and one out works pretty well... any other tips?
dont start with songs, get a piano, and work on playing simple melodies and singing them
my family has one... you mean just play like a scale and hum along?
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Unread post by fatjack » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:16 pm

praisedave wrote:
fatjack wrote:
praisedave wrote:
fatjack wrote:
praisedave wrote:
fatjack wrote:
praisedave wrote:
fatjack wrote:that was the sleepiest rap i've ever heard. have some personality if you are gonna do this kind of song

there were a few rhythmic problems with the solo, but this has probably been your best effort yet.
thanks man.
i tried adding more personality and volume to the vocals... but it just sounded crappier and crappier... so i played it safe :oops:

freeker cover is coming friday
if you have to "play it safe" it means that when you try to sing the melody, you are going off key. get some singing/ear training lessons
i dont think that i have enough vocal ability to warrant lessons
and im definetly going out of key
then what exactly are you doing to get better at singing?

start with ear training then
okay, how should i go about that exactly? i find that singing along with songs while i have one ear in the headphone and one out works pretty well... any other tips?
dont start with songs, get a piano, and work on playing simple melodies and singing them
my family has one... you mean just play like a scale and hum along?
thats a good start, but dont just hum along. here's an exercise:

play a C major scale over one octave. then play the C you started on and fill in the rest with you own voice (without playing the piano along with it). once you get to the top C, play it on the piano and see how close you are. you can start out checking every not if you want, but try to hit the note without playing it on the keys first.

and of course work on other major scales. i would suggest starting on G or A major starting below middle C

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:19 pm

alright man, thanks for the tips
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Unread post by Jakis » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:02 pm

Enjoyed it but as people said sing it dont speak it, but hey i dont even try to sing. I really enjoyed the guitar though. Keep practicing singing, im sure you will get it eventually.

Cheers,

Jakis

and also i cant wait to here the freeker cover!

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:06 pm

Jakis wrote:Enjoyed it but as people said sing it dont speak it, but hey i dont even try to sing. I really enjoyed the guitar though. Keep practicing singing, im sure you will get it eventually.

Cheers,

Jakis

and also i cant wait to here the freeker cover!
thanks for the comment and cheers to you too
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Unread post by geekmug » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:00 am

praisedave wrote:i find that singing along with songs while i have one ear in the headphone and one out works pretty well... any other tips?
If you have the ability to do a monitor feed without a delay, that would be easier on you and ears (as in getting sore from the headphones being on wrong). Feed the song you are singing with (without vocals is best -- record everything else first) and then loopback the mic into your phones too.

Singing along with another singer is the #1 way to fool yourself in every respect. It is really easy to think you are singing better on pitch and in style when you are doubling. If you have to sing along with the original vocals, then you at least make sure you hear your voice dominately and even so far as burying the sound of the other vocals.

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Unread post by eliot1171 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:09 am

Sounds good, everything I would say you already know. My only comment is why is everyone considering this song rap? I don't think its anywhere close to rap.
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:56 am

the vocals are so irritating, let go and sing it. other than that the guitar is solid, dont have fear in singing, just let go it seems like your holding back vocally

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Unread post by MWR » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:57 am

Finally you cover a song with a simple rhythm/chord progression to show us that you can groove. Definately a good job on the guitar. It lacked spunk but you maintained the beat well throughout.
The problem here is that Mraz is one of the best vocalist's out there right now and few of his songs are easy to sing. There's a definate melody to this song even when he's "rapping" as you put it.
If you're serious about singing find a teacher. Almost everyone is born with the physical ability to sing. People who sing well without having taken lessons were born with the natural understanding of how to control the physicality of it. They don't have "better" vocal chords than you they just know how to use them.

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Re: Curbside Prophet Cover... CRIT PLEASE

Unread post by jellyfish » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:08 am

praisedave wrote:im mainly looking for crits on the slap solo and advice on singing, im pretty sure i got the instrumentals spot on

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/andymangold/

thanks in advance
OK, as always I always crituque with an objective view. Meaning = I dont read others comments before I make my own judgement on your recording.

Guitar = IMO, I thought the absence of the higher notes made the song sound like a muffled JJ song. The third, sixth & ninth notes should be high notes. Then theres a little breakdown and the end of the verse. Im sure you know the song & I hope that didn't sound condescending.

Vocals = No harmony. Don't talk ---->Sing. I can tell your voice wouldn't be bad if you actually SANG the song.

I did like the little bass thing at the end though. I have a great version of this song with just Jason & his Guitar. I will host it in "Spread the Love". I used this mp3 to learn the song.

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Unread post by mangold » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:51 pm

MWR wrote:Finally you cover a song with a simple rhythm/chord progression to show us that you can groove. Definately a good job on the guitar. It lacked spunk but you maintained the beat well throughout.
The problem here is that Mraz is one of the best vocalist's out there right now and few of his songs are easy to sing. There's a definate melody to this song even when he's "rapping" as you put it.
If you're serious about singing find a teacher. Almost everyone is born with the physical ability to sing. People who sing well without having taken lessons were born with the natural understanding of how to control the physicality of it. They don't have "better" vocal chords than you they just know how to use them.
the biggest problem (and i know you warned me against it) with this song waht breathing. i even had to cut out some words to keep from passin out. he must use circular breathing or maybe he just has bigger lungs than me.

i do love his vocals though

thanks for the comments mike
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Unread post by mangold » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:52 pm

thanks for the comments all
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Unread post by MWR » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:59 pm

praisedave wrote:
MWR wrote:Finally you cover a song with a simple rhythm/chord progression to show us that you can groove. Definately a good job on the guitar. It lacked spunk but you maintained the beat well throughout.
The problem here is that Mraz is one of the best vocalist's out there right now and few of his songs are easy to sing. There's a definate melody to this song even when he's "rapping" as you put it.
If you're serious about singing find a teacher. Almost everyone is born with the physical ability to sing. People who sing well without having taken lessons were born with the natural understanding of how to control the physicality of it. They don't have "better" vocal chords than you they just know how to use them.
the biggest problem (and i know you warned me against it) with this song waht breathing. i even had to cut out some words to keep from passin out. he must use circular breathing or maybe he just has bigger lungs than me.

i do love his vocals though

thanks for the comments mike
I hope that was a joke. :?

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Unread post by jellyfish » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:07 pm

MWR wrote:
praisedave wrote:
MWR wrote:Finally you cover a song with a simple rhythm/chord progression to show us that you can groove. Definately a good job on the guitar. It lacked spunk but you maintained the beat well throughout.
The problem here is that Mraz is one of the best vocalist's out there right now and few of his songs are easy to sing. There's a definate melody to this song even when he's "rapping" as you put it.
If you're serious about singing find a teacher. Almost everyone is born with the physical ability to sing. People who sing well without having taken lessons were born with the natural understanding of how to control the physicality of it. They don't have "better" vocal chords than you they just know how to use them.
the biggest problem (and i know you warned me against it) with this song waht breathing. i even had to cut out some words to keep from passin out. he must use circular breathing or maybe he just has bigger lungs than me.

i do love his vocals though

thanks for the comments mike
I hope that was a joke. :?
Or God decided that he wanted Mraz to be ugly but made it up to him by giving him a great voice. I would kill to have his vocals.

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Unread post by Brock » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:13 pm

mraz isn't ugly :P
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