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Unread post by sunglassesatnight » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:11 pm

Smbabs886 wrote:
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dmbguitar718 wrote:This is the only original I've heard from you, but your Dave Matthews influence bleeds right into your music. I mean, seriously, this does not sound original at all. The guitar part is so derived from Dave's work that it's hard for me to listen to. It has an extremely weak chorus, too. "Where is God/Where could he be/I don't believe he's above me" Come on. Your vocal delivery and flourishes sound like you're just playing a Dave Matthews song that I've never heard.

Pleeeease, lay off the Dave for a bit and focus on yourself if you're serious about marketing yourself.
Let me tell you somethin i'd much rather see this kid live than you anyday.. I just saw your lilttle video on your pathetic website and let me tell you it was like watchin a bad karaoke night after drinkin. So when you say focus on yourself before you go and market yourself, i think you should reconsider your little web site there. His song may sound a lot like dave matthews, but you know what.. give this kid some time and man he's goin places. At least he can put on a good performance.
You have obviously not paid any attention to Pat's abilities. And fuck you for it.

And so you're friends with SRVDMB huh?
His abilities? Are you just as delusional as he is? Clearly he's all studio and can't perform live. All i was tryin to say was there is no need to bash on the kid when your shit isn't all that great either.

Pat when you say your not trying to market yourself, i don't think having a web site really justifies that statement. And when you perform your originals live i'd like to hear them then, cause everything i've seen on the site isn't all that impressive. How long have you been playing?
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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:18 pm

Smbabs886 wrote:
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Smbabs886 wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:This is the only original I've heard from you, but your Dave Matthews influence bleeds right into your music. I mean, seriously, this does not sound original at all. The guitar part is so derived from Dave's work that it's hard for me to listen to. It has an extremely weak chorus, too. "Where is God/Where could he be/I don't believe he's above me" Come on. Your vocal delivery and flourishes sound like you're just playing a Dave Matthews song that I've never heard.

Pleeeease, lay off the Dave for a bit and focus on yourself if you're serious about marketing yourself.
Let me tell you somethin i'd much rather see this kid live than you anyday.. I just saw your lilttle video on your pathetic website and let me tell you it was like watchin a bad karaoke night after drinkin. So when you say focus on yourself before you go and market yourself, i think you should reconsider your little web site there. His song may sound a lot like dave matthews, but you know what.. give this kid some time and man he's goin places. At least he can put on a good performance.
You have obviously not paid any attention to Pat's abilities. And fuck you for it.

And so you're friends with SRVDMB huh?
His abilities? Are you just as delusional as he is? Clearly he's all studio and can't perform live. All i was tryin to say was there is no need to bash on the kid when your shit isn't all that great either.

Pat when you say your not trying to market yourself, i don't think having a web site really justifies that statement. And when you perform your originals live i'd like to hear them then, cause everything i've seen on the site isn't all that impressive. How long have you been playing?
You are basing the fact that I can't play live on a video that was filmed over a year ago. One video.

I've had that website since I was 14. I had no intentions of marketing anything. If I was trying to market myself now, don't you think I would have a "dates" setion or a "buy my music" section? I clearly don't have anything on my site that I'm trying to sell. It's a little stuff about me, my music, and some random pictures I took years ago.

If you must see more recent material, here are a couple videos from a random date last November. They're both original songs that I performed with a few friends. They're obviously joke songs, and not to be taken seriously. But alas, it's all I have for you.

Steve Irwin (Video)
http://www.s151305233.onlinehome.us/steveirwin.wmv

Hey Hey, Number Nine
http://www.s151305233.onlinehome.us/pluto.wmv

And more recent audio stuff:

Here's a song I currently have finished and all composed. It's just a matter of getting my friends to come in and record they're respective parts:

The Second Son (clip)
http://www.s151305233.onlinehome.us/clipson.mp3


Look man, I'm not trying to be a dick. All I'm saying is that if he's trying to gather a following now, he should have a much stronger product to push. The song he posted will not help him. You can respond to this however you'd like, but I'm not here to argue or change my comments.
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Unread post by SRVDMB » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:08 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:
Smbabs886 wrote:
SimsUK wrote:
Smbabs886 wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:This is the only original I've heard from you, but your Dave Matthews influence bleeds right into your music. I mean, seriously, this does not sound original at all. The guitar part is so derived from Dave's work that it's hard for me to listen to. It has an extremely weak chorus, too. "Where is God/Where could he be/I don't believe he's above me" Come on. Your vocal delivery and flourishes sound like you're just playing a Dave Matthews song that I've never heard.

Pleeeease, lay off the Dave for a bit and focus on yourself if you're serious about marketing yourself.
Let me tell you somethin i'd much rather see this kid live than you anyday.. I just saw your lilttle video on your pathetic website and let me tell you it was like watchin a bad karaoke night after drinkin. So when you say focus on yourself before you go and market yourself, i think you should reconsider your little web site there. His song may sound a lot like dave matthews, but you know what.. give this kid some time and man he's goin places. At least he can put on a good performance.
You have obviously not paid any attention to Pat's abilities. And fuck you for it.

And so you're friends with SRVDMB huh?
His abilities? Are you just as delusional as he is? Clearly he's all studio and can't perform live. All i was tryin to say was there is no need to bash on the kid when your shit isn't all that great either.

Pat when you say your not trying to market yourself, i don't think having a web site really justifies that statement. And when you perform your originals live i'd like to hear them then, cause everything i've seen on the site isn't all that impressive. How long have you been playing?
You are basing the fact that I can't play live on a video that was filmed over a year ago. One video.

I've had that website since I was 14. I had no intentions of marketing anything. If I was trying to market myself now, don't you think I would have a "dates" setion or a "buy my music" section? I clearly don't have anything on my site that I'm trying to sell. It's a little stuff about me, my music, and some random pictures I took years ago.

If you must see more recent material, here are a couple videos from a random date last November. They're both original songs that I performed with a few friends. They're obviously joke songs, and not to be taken seriously. But alas, it's all I have for you.

Steve Irwin (Video)
http://www.s151305233.onlinehome.us/steveirwin.wmv

Hey Hey, Number Nine
http://www.s151305233.onlinehome.us/pluto.wmv

And more recent audio stuff:

Here's a song I currently have finished and all composed. It's just a matter of getting my friends to come in and record they're respective parts:

The Second Son (clip)
http://www.s151305233.onlinehome.us/clipson.mp3


Look man, I'm not trying to be a dick. All I'm saying is that if he's trying to gather a following now, he should have a much stronger product to push. The song he posted will not help him. You can respond to this however you'd like, but I'm not here to argue or change my comments.

Doesn't matter what you think about it not helping me. Its my music. Its my "product" if thats how you see it. But without all the bullshit i'm playing out. And i'm making money....So i guess my product is good enough for people...But hey of you don't like it thats fine. Don't tell me my lyrics are bad. Don't tell me how people will interpret it either. Thats over the line. I like what cory said even if it is against me...musicial Masturbation....lol....Music is free for everyone to interpret differently. Because something that means a lot to me you could care less about. If i'm singing about something in my life your obiviously not thinking the same thing. Its not my job to make sure people understand and love my music, its my job to play it and have a great time. If thats a big problem then so be it. I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm aware the song has a Dave Matthews feel to it. So what? Who gives a fuck? I love playing music. I only seem to have problems with people putting me down on the internet. In person everyone is so nice and people like to talk about music with me....But here...nothing but negativity. I got slammed. Other people on here got slammed. Why? Because everyone loves to be the big shot dick. No more Love.



P.S.- Slimer lets hear your songs. I'm serious. Not being sarcastic.....Lets hear them dude!

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Unread post by SRVDMB » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:14 pm

Oh and Pat....I watched your steve irwin thing....Its pretty good. But you need to move around a bit. Everyone is just standing around. Do the Dave dance or something! lol

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:16 pm

So you come here looking for only positive feedback? You have an incredibly skewed sense of playing music professionally. Not everyone is going to like your product. Not everyone will praise you like Joe Schmoe will at some bar. Coming to grips with that is something that will aid you tremendously if you attempt to push your music further. You can't just put something out there for people to critique, and just slam everyone who may have negative comments.

Seriously, you have to see where I'm coming from...right?
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Unread post by boonie » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:16 pm

In all honest SRVDMB, when i clicked your myspace link it opened up in a different window and i was still browsing around online, when your original came on i opened up the myspace page b/c i thought i had accidently clicked on a cover of Bartender or DDTW like 99 D+T style. I'm sorry you're so defensive about your work but the fact is show some originality, and I'm not trying to be a dick. But seriously even your vocal delivery and the melody reflected Dave. Lyrcally more Dave "Brother sister chained them down"..."Sister chained and bound, beaten and bleeding" is what that sounds like to me. Compositionally it is weak as well there is virtually no chordal movement. I mean you ride D for the whole verse and then do the DDTW chord switch for the chorus and go to the G. I'm sorry you may have a problem taking constructive criticisizm but you have a lot of work to do.


P.S The Beatles are not spelled like the bug, you might want to change that under your influences, it looks really dumb.

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Unread post by Banjobach » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:20 pm

I've received plenty of positive feedback from this site. Be glad your song got attention at all. The worst is when no one tells you what they think whether its good or bad. I find the purest truth one can get out of their listeners is through a screen where faces cant be seen, and people can be as brutally honest as they need to be. But i guess if people are buying your music, why change? Who cares if there is a lack of originality? I mean, honestly who tries to express themselves in their own unique way these days?

My first post was as constructive as i can be. But it makes no difference if you wont take peoples criticisms into account.

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Unread post by SRVDMB » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:26 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:So you come here looking for only positive feedback? You have an incredibly skewed sense of playing music professionally. Not everyone is going to like your product. Not everyone will praise you like Joe Schmoe will at some bar. Coming to grips with that is something that will aid you tremendously if you attempt to push your music further. You can't just put something out there for people to critique, and just slam everyone who may have negative comments.

Seriously, you have to see where I'm coming from...right?

I'm accepting it from everybody else......but not you

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Unread post by SRVDMB » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:28 pm

Well the rest of my originals don't sound so dave like. This just happened to be one the songs i played. I have more that i will try to add this weekend. I think you guys won't hate those as much as you hate the one up now.

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:32 pm

SRVDMB wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:So you come here looking for only positive feedback? You have an incredibly skewed sense of playing music professionally. Not everyone is going to like your product. Not everyone will praise you like Joe Schmoe will at some bar. Coming to grips with that is something that will aid you tremendously if you attempt to push your music further. You can't just put something out there for people to critique, and just slam everyone who may have negative comments.

Seriously, you have to see where I'm coming from...right?

I'm accepting it from everybody else......but not you
Accepting what?
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Unread post by SRVDMB » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:38 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:
SRVDMB wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:So you come here looking for only positive feedback? You have an incredibly skewed sense of playing music professionally. Not everyone is going to like your product. Not everyone will praise you like Joe Schmoe will at some bar. Coming to grips with that is something that will aid you tremendously if you attempt to push your music further. You can't just put something out there for people to critique, and just slam everyone who may have negative comments.

Seriously, you have to see where I'm coming from...right?

I'm accepting it from everybody else......but not you
Accepting what?

Negative feedback. Maybe i am being defensive.....But maybe i wrote a song and everybody fucking tells me it sucks and that it sounds too much like dave...Maybe i feel like nobody fucking cares about my shit. And dude get over yourself! Your performance is shitty! You stand there not moving at all......fucking move!!!! lol.....I'm done with this bullshit...I'm not gonna argue about my own music. Idk why i keep checking this looking at the people dissing me...Maybe in a month or two i'll put some more shit on this site. But i don't need anything negative right now. Thats it.....


Thanks for making me feel like i suck and that i have no talent and eveyone else is better then me,

Jack

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:05 am

SRVDMB wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:
SRVDMB wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:So you come here looking for only positive feedback? You have an incredibly skewed sense of playing music professionally. Not everyone is going to like your product. Not everyone will praise you like Joe Schmoe will at some bar. Coming to grips with that is something that will aid you tremendously if you attempt to push your music further. You can't just put something out there for people to critique, and just slam everyone who may have negative comments.

Seriously, you have to see where I'm coming from...right?

I'm accepting it from everybody else......but not you
Accepting what?

Negative feedback. Maybe i am being defensive.....But maybe i wrote a song and everybody fucking tells me it sucks and that it sounds too much like dave...Maybe i feel like nobody fucking cares about my shit. And dude get over yourself! Your performance is shitty! You stand there not moving at all......fucking move!!!! lol.....I'm done with this bullshit...I'm not gonna argue about my own music. Idk why i keep checking this looking at the people dissing me...Maybe in a month or two i'll put some more shit on this site. But i don't need anything negative right now. Thats it.....


Thanks for making me feel like i suck and that i have no talent and eveyone else is better then me,

Jack
I respect that you wrote a song, and had the courage to post it on here.

However, if you're upset because you feel that nobody cares about your work, it will only get worse for you. Like I said before, not everyone will like your music. You can't just go and defend yourself every time (and in some cases here, you really can't defend the blatant Dave Matthews derivations). I understand that you put out a song that you care about, and that you enjoy. However, I get the feeling that you don't care what other peoople think. If so, then why are you here? I'm giving you feedback that could be very valuable to you as someone trying to start a career, and you're throwing it back in my face.

Get over myself? Are you kidding me? When did I say, "Look! Everybody look at me and how good I am!" I didn't. I'd appreciate it if you didn't misrepresent me like that.

Your last comment was especially worrying. If my comments (or anyone else's, for that matter) are going to drive you to feel like a horrible musician, you seriously need to consider putting your music out there. I will say this one last time: Not everyone will enjoy your music.

Take this however you may like, but I've given you a lot more constructive criticism than you may realize. You're going to hear it from more than just me, believe me.
Pat McInnis

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Unread post by Blake » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:30 am

I enjoyed this Dave cover. Good job.

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Unread post by Grachi » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:32 am

Cor wrote:
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Banjobach wrote:I suppose there's no point in critiquing your song if you wont change anything...


Its nothing against you. I feel good when i play the song....I like the song. Its touches me.....I don't want to change that.....
Sometimes music isn't just about you. A musician tries to touch others.

If you only care about how you feel when you play it, it's musical masturbation.
Yea, it's a balance between the two for me.

I didn't listen to this guys cover but if enough people are saying it sounds too much like Dave, you might want to change that just because I think it always more flattering to sound like "you" then like any other artist. I say that in all honesty, and I would hope people think I sound more like "me" then Dave or the Goo Goo Dolls or Matchbox 20 or any of the cover songs that I have on here.

It's always about improvement. I always like the constructive criticism as well as the compliments.

I think that's a good way to go about it.
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Unread post by Speenis » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:35 am

btbesong wrote:I enjoyed this Dave cover. Good job.
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