lyric writing questions

Granny33 · Unread post by **Granny33** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:53 pm

i'm really confused about writing lyrics. hmm how do i say this...is there a way your supposed to write songs. like should it be like a poem with rhyme schmes and whatnot or just like w/e sounds good?

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:55 pm

whatever sounds good..... i remember someone telling me "roses are red, violets are blue, some poems rhyme but this one doesnt."

just think of that... it doesnt have to have any scheme to it. its your song.

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:10 pm

there is no correct way, its art

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:37 pm

if someone tells you there's a way that you're "supposed" to write songs, punch them in the face and tell them they don't know anything.

it's deeply personal. never write a song for the sake of writing a song, write it because you want to and you feel the need to.

even with poetry, there is no "supposed" way, despite what idiot creative writing teachers in the public school system of america will tell you. poem's range from haikus to sonnets (basho to shakespeare), short and simple to complex and epic (a little girl's love poem to her father to something along the lines of the Inferno), but the best have always come from within, and that's my best tip on writing.

writing, as with anything, only gets better with practice. compare your 5th grade writings to your highschool writings. improve and write, and absorb as much as you can. read lyrics, find lyrics that you love and try to figure out why you love them, then try to adopt, not copy (there's a difference, and you slowly learn what it is with time) similar methods into your own writing.

if you write the music out first, record it, then listen to the music and jot down how it makes you feel. then go from there.

each song, each lyric, how it forms always comes out differently because you're at a different place at each time. i usually try to write out as much as i can then go back and cut down after i've gotten the initial feelings out so i don't waste anything. sometimes i hum along to a recording until i get a feel for general melody, then try to find something that fits, but i don't let the melody restrict and constrain me, because that's the worst thing you could possibly do.

other then that, it's very much trial-and-error. the only way is if you keep at it. find a method that works for you, get feedback from other people, and keep pushing on. it's a slow process, and it never really ends, but it's very rewarding if you keep at it.

hope that helps.

DJR · Unread post by **DJR** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:46 pm

i think you just summed up what everyone wants to try and tell people for this subject - you rock isaac

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:55 pm

that means a lot, mate. i'm very flattered, but all i was trying to do was help a few people out.

you doubly rock!

Granny33 · Unread post by **Granny33** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 7:41 am

yea thanks a ton isaac that helped a lot, and thanks everyone else too.

NoNotThat · Unread post by **NoNotThat** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:20 am

this is how you write lyrics:

She walked out of her house
And looked around
At all the gardens that looked
Back at her house
(Like all the faces
That quiz when you smile... )

And he was standing
At the corner
Where the road turned dark
A part of shiny wet
Like blood the rain fell
Black down on the street

And kissed his feet she fell
Her head an inch away from heaven
And her face pressed tight
And all around the night sang out
Like cockatoos

"There are a thousand things" he said
"I'll never say those things to you again"
And turning on his heel
He left a trace of bubbles
Bleeding in his stead

And in her head
A picture of a boy who left her
Lonely in the rain
(And all around the night sang out
Like cockatoos)

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:05 am

yep

just like that

Granny33 · Unread post by **Granny33** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:52 am

i like it, does it have a name or music?

NoNotThat · Unread post by **NoNotThat** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:21 pm

yeah...
Like Cockatoos by The Cure
d/l it...it's pretty interesting

DustyDave · Unread post by **DustyDave** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:04 pm

Very nice Isaac

Granny33 · Unread post by **Granny33** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:31 pm

NoNotThat wrote:yeah...
Like Cockatoos by The Cure
d/l it...it's pretty interesting

who wrote it?

DustyDave · Unread post by **DustyDave** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:36 pm

NoNotThat wrote:Like Cockatoos by The Cure

Granny33 · Unread post by **Granny33** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:50 pm

ha wow, i'm stupid. is sucks being sick on xmas eve. btw never try and restring a guitar while sick, i have a nice welt across my hand cuz i tightened the b string instead of loosening it while trying to get it off.

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