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Learning Scales

Unread post by GreyStreet41 » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:03 pm

Does anyone know of a site that list pretty much every guitar scale under the sun? I'm trying to learn scales and am having a hard time finding sites that show accurate guitar scales. Also, what are good scales to start out learning? I've been told Major Pentatonic and Minor Pentatonic, any other good ones, or any other I should start off with? My reasoning for wanting to learn is so that I can jam using scales in certain keys of songs...Give me a heads up, let me know what would be good to learn.

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Unread post by fatjack » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:09 pm

learn the major scale, over every fret. if you learn this scale, you will pretty much know every scale already

if you look at scales from a certain perspective, there are only about 7 0r 8 scales (in Western music that is)

the major scale is the basis for all other scales :wink:
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Unread post by jsgksu » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:12 pm

fatjack wrote:learn the major scale, over every fret. if you learn this scale, you will pretty much know every scale already

if you look at scales from a certain perspective, there are only about 7 0r 8 scales (in Western music that is)

the major scale is the basis for all other scales :wink:
Can you expand or let me fill us in on the major scale, I always ask for advice about this and get no where on my own.
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Unread post by fatjack » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:13 pm

jsgksu wrote:
fatjack wrote:learn the major scale, over every fret. if you learn this scale, you will pretty much know every scale already

if you look at scales from a certain perspective, there are only about 7 0r 8 scales (in Western music that is)

the major scale is the basis for all other scales :wink:
Can you expand or let me fill us in on the major scale, I always ask for advice about this and get no where on my own.
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Unread post by Ando » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:57 pm

zentao.com/guitar


Great site for that kind of stuff.

I should look at it some time...
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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:53 am

matty, thanks man...this site looks awesome... can you explain what the 1,3,5,9 circled numbers are? are they frets or what?? i'm just a little confused, the site is new to me...any help would be awesome on this....thanks again!

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Unread post by grock » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:05 pm

tjmac66pc wrote:
matty, thanks man...this site looks awesome... can you explain what the 1,3,5,9 circled numbers are? are they frets or what?? i'm just a little confused, the site is new to me...any help would be awesome on this....thanks again!
way off. those numbers are "scale degrees" like in C, C=1, D=2, E=3, F=4, G=5, A=6, B=7, C=8, D=9 and so on.

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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:09 pm

grock wrote:
tjmac66pc wrote:
matty, thanks man...this site looks awesome... can you explain what the 1,3,5,9 circled numbers are? are they frets or what?? i'm just a little confused, the site is new to me...any help would be awesome on this....thanks again!
way off. those numbers are "scale degrees" like in C, C=1, D=2, E=3, F=4, G=5, A=6, B=7, C=8, D=9 and so on.
grock what exactly are "scale degrees"? my knowledge is pretty much elementary when it comes to this stuff, but any additional info you could provide would be great...if it's too hard to explain, don't bother..thank you though :lol:

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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:11 pm

i feel like if i know what these mean, then i really might be able to accelerate my learning of scales...i may be dreaming though
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Unread post by grock » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:17 pm

it's simply the "notes in the scale" but they are numbered started with the root note.

so the root note is C. the Key is C. and C=1.

and then to make the scale, you go up by certain increments. memorize this : "WWHWWWH" where W means whole step or 2 frets, and H mean half step or 1 fret.

so like C-D is Whole, D-E is Whole, E-F is Half, etc.

or in the Key of D, D=1 and then you use the same WWHWWWH.
so those notes are DEF#GABC#D. does that make sense how you get the scale by using WWHWWWH??

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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:28 pm

i think when i look at the scale, i'm just getting confused... when i toggle between C major and D major, i see that everything is moved up "W" or two frets...so i'm maybe i'm getting there...but there's still something that i don't get fully....so those numbers are "degrees" as you mentioned, but they are located on the frets right? (when looking at the scale) - if this is not clear, i'll try to do better

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Unread post by grock » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:39 pm

tjmac66pc wrote:i think when i look at the scale, i'm just getting confused... when i toggle between C major and D major, i see that everything is moved up "W" or two frets...so i'm maybe i'm getting there...but there's still something that i don't get fully....so those numbers are "degrees" as you mentioned, but they are located on the frets right? (when looking at the scale) - if this is not clear, i'll try to do better
exactly, you actually know a lot more than you think. those numbers are exactly located where they appear on the page. if you are in C just think of all the 1's as C's etc.

this is done because in a scale you will notice certain things about the scale degrees and how they are used. you will find that landing on the 1's, and 5's for pauses works really well, and bending the 2's up a Half step to add tension works great too. 7's are not very good to stop on. a pause on 1 and then a slide to 5 can be very nice... etc...

and another thing you picked up on is once you learn the "C" scale you can just move it X number of frets to match up with whatever Key you are in. So to go to G you would just move up WWHW or 7 frets. or to F# you would move everything WWH(H) or 6 steps.

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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:45 pm

so i don't over do it...i'm gonna start with this and see what i can come up with, guitar in hand... but it seems you may have really helped to point me in the right direction and maybe i'll have one of those periods where i pick up a lot in the next couple weeks, based on this...recently i had been in kind of a 'guitar slump' if you know what i mean...cuz i've never had lessons... thanks for your help, and i may be askin you for more tips in the near future...thanks again grock!

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Unread post by gcom007 » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:48 pm

fatjack wrote:learn the major scale, over every fret. if you learn this scale, you will pretty much know every scale already

if you look at scales from a certain perspective, there are only about 7 0r 8 scales (in Western music that is)

the major scale is the basis for all other scales :wink:
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