Chomp on this

[DreaminBassMunky]

Tablature has spoiled our generation. It is not to say that some people play by ear, but many people rely on tablature like it was their life line, and they were drowning in a sea of one sided reliance. It is not to say either that some songs are just so insanely difficult that one needs to tablature, for instance something like Stream. But these tabs people are asking tabs to O.A.R songs, for pete's sake. And we wonder why people can barely tune their guitars, it's because they don't learn to listen. They learn to read and play along. I admit I still use some tablature, but my dependency has gone far down recently. Kids of my parents generation what put on albums and teach themselves simple chords. I see kids these days playing tough songs, but they can't even name all the strings. Learn to listen! Challenge yourself!

Well that's my self righeteous rant for today, I haven't been here in a few days, figured I'd come back in style.

Any thoughts, complaints, arguements, concerns, fears?

[Appfro]

yea well it's kinda like a calculator. its usefull and so im going to use it. and to be honest, i probably would have never learned the guitar w/o tableture because i started getting really tired of just playing chords when i first started until i learned my first song...from tabs. and i have a terrible ear. you're right, but i love it.

[fatjack]

Tablature has spoiled our generation. It is not to say that some people play by ear, but many people rely on tablature like it was their life line, and they were drowning in a sea of one sided reliance. It is not to say either that some songs are just so insanely difficult that one needs to tablature, for instance something like Stream. But these tabs people are asking tabs to O.A.R songs, for pete's sake. And we wonder why people can barely tune their guitars, it's because they don't learn to listen. They learn to read and play along. I admit I still use some tablature, but my dependency has gone far down recently. Kids of my parents generation what put on albums and teach themselves simple chords. I see kids these days playing tough songs, but they can't even name all the strings. Learn to listen! Challenge yourself!

Well that's my self righeteous rant for today, I haven't been here in a few days, figured I'd come back in style.

Any thoughts, complaints, arguements, concerns, fears?

i love you

[MWR]

Agreed. The problem is that standard notation is a bitch to read for guitar. The notes are not nearly as well defined as they are on a piano. Damn that piano and it's perfect design.

[Ando]

Tablature has spoiled our generation. It is not to say that some people play by ear, but many people rely on tablature like it was their life line, and they were drowning in a sea of one sided reliance. It is not to say either that some songs are just so insanely difficult that one needs to tablature, for instance something like Stream. But these tabs people are asking tabs to O.A.R songs, for pete's sake. And we wonder why people can barely tune their guitars, it's because they don't learn to listen. They learn to read and play along. I admit I still use some tablature, but my dependency has gone far down recently. Kids of my parents generation what put on albums and teach themselves simple chords. I see kids these days playing tough songs, but they can't even name all the strings. Learn to listen! Challenge yourself!

Well that's my self righeteous rant for today, I haven't been here in a few days, figured I'd come back in style.

Any thoughts, complaints, arguements, concerns, fears?

I use tablature. But I've began using it less and less..

[Appfro]

well if i had an ear i wouldn't, but i have NO ear. i can barely figure out the root note progression of a song.

[Ranting Thespian]

well, for tabs, I use them as a starting point, just so I know the fingerings. Then I just play by ear. I also write, and I know names of most usual and some unusualk chords. I do know standard tuning strings. I also tab my own songs so I don't forget them. Tab is great, just it's true, don't rely on it, or else you become slightly crippled to music.

[w0odman]

well, I started off with a guitar book, and then moved on to learning songs by tabs, and my ear improved after a while, so I am not completely dependent on tabs. But I played hours on end daily so I think that helped my ear GREATLY. Plus I eventually caught onto what chords sound good with each other and everything. so don't give up all hope.

[grock]

i can get tunings to withing like 5cents before i can't tell if it's too sharp or flat, so i rely on a tuner. i am pretty good at bending notes to pitch or slide guitar to pitch but tuning. even after these years that is my one fault, i should try some more to see if i've got any better.

i can read music, but i can't sight read for guitar. i usually find myself taking a peice of notation and putting it in tab cuz it's easier.

i can pick out basic progressions and without knowig the chords i can half ass a solo by slurring notes that don't sound right.

but i can't stand people that don't know the string notes, or the note names. I'm like "put your pinky on that high G. no no THE HIGH G. arghh. ok first string 3rd fret. damn." i just want to be like "come on people" and when i am trying to do something with a capo and people don't understand how the shape is a different chord now.

[mbgreen]

Though slightly ironic on a message board devoted to accurate tabs (eliminating the need for any ear,)

POST OF THE FUCKING YEAR

OAR tabs. That one always gets me.

[fatjack]

i can read music, but i can't sight read for guitar. i usually find myself taking a peice of notation and putting it in tab cuz it's easier.

same here, thats why i like books that have tab and notation, that way i can just concentrate on getting the rhythm and not have to worry about which formation i should use

[Cor]

Tablature has spoiled our generation. It is not to say that some people play by ear, but many people rely on tablature like it was their life line, and they were drowning in a sea of one sided reliance. It is not to say either that some songs are just so insanely difficult that one needs to tablature, for instance something like Stream. But these tabs people are asking tabs to O.A.R songs, for pete's sake. And we wonder why people can barely tune their guitars, it's because they don't learn to listen. They learn to read and play along. I admit I still use some tablature, but my dependency has gone far down recently. Kids of my parents generation what put on albums and teach themselves simple chords. I see kids these days playing tough songs, but they can't even name all the strings. Learn to listen! Challenge yourself!

Well that's my self righeteous rant for today, I haven't been here in a few days, figured I'd come back in style.

Any thoughts, complaints, arguements, concerns, fears?

i love you

I love you both... I used to use tab, for learn how to play, but now I try to figure stuff out by myself. I can also get sort of close tuning by ear, but I would guess that tab helped, you know, see a "5" on the "6th" string, learn the sound of that note.

I liked tabs, but their time has gone (for the most part )

Cory

Ps. Where Isaac?

[matthews123]

Where Isaac?

i shot him. was that wrong of me?

[Dancing Ants]

every non-standard chord (A, C, D, E, F, G, etc etc) I have learned from tabs. I can figure out *some* barre chords by their sound, and when I write I try to use odd chords and such, that I've learned from Dave's stuff, Mraz's stuff, Tim's stuff (not as much..), Zeppelin, and such. Even some of Mayer's stuff has helped me write music. Reading sheet music and translating to guitar is so daunting to me....I would have to quit my job just to have enough time to spend on it..and I can't do that. Right now, anyway.

[The Man of The Hour]

I don't care how bad of shape you guys are in, if you play for long enough - you'll develop an ear. You'll realize you can tune your guitar faster than a tuner, and totally lose the need for tabs. For Dave tabs though, part of the music is focused on the muting, so tabs are needed for "perfect" playing. To achieve the "whole package", it does matter which string the notes are on and the relationship between them. But that's just if you want to achieve that sound, it sounds similar to play it by ear, but that's not the reason Jkanter made the site. I say GO DMBTABS!