The Methodology of Soloing

Dancing Ants · Unread post by **Dancing Ants** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:51 pm

Is there a rhyme or reason to putting a solo together, or is it all feeling? could someone help me to learn how to make a solo?

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:52 pm

Dancing Ants wrote:Is there a rhyme or reason to putting a solo together, or is it all feeling? could someone help me to learn how to make a solo?

calling it a methodology is your first problem. it is mostly feeling. learning the parameters for soloing comes first, then you start using your knowledge for expression

Dancing Ants · Unread post by **Dancing Ants** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:45 am

methodology was a joke....anyway, what's a way to learn my parameters, and how do i get knowledge for expression?

Ricky the Pilot · Unread post by **Ricky the Pilot** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:02 am

Practice Scales. They will teach you the ins and outs of the fretboard. Satellite, #34, SMTS they are all variations on different scales. Once you know the basics everything else falls into place.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:29 am

Ricky the Pilot wrote:Practice Scales. They will teach you the ins and outs of the fretboard. Satellite, #34, SMTS they are all variations on different scales. Once you know the basics everything else falls into place.

yeah LEARN THE FRET BOARD NOTES. then learn some basic scales like G and then use that to mess around with. Once you know where the notes are and can remember what the note is rather quickly it becomes second nature to know know where you can play in the scale. and it's all downhill from there.

Matty Boom · Unread post by **Matty Boom** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:52 am

I've said this before...but I started out as a bluesy lead guy, and when I was starting out, I learned my pentatonic scales (which are real real simple) then started fooling around with those. It teaches you the fretboard, helps you to start understand what you're playing more when you play other things, and once your fingers start moving with the scale, you start just jamming out to different songs...soon enough, and before you know it, you'll be doing some mild soloing. Of course there's the soloing where every note is planned by some dumbasses (in my opinion, although I respect that ability), but a lot of your great jam guitarists would just pull it off on the spot. You'll start coming up with your own bag of licks when you start playing with other peoples' solos and practicing on your own, and then you'll just be able to weave together different parts of your bag.

Here's a link for scales (found by someone besides me)...

http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/g ... ex_rb.html

Learn your pentatonic major, minor, and blues, then the straight major and minor scales. PM me if you need anything else.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:50 am

there was an excellent xls file that someone put up for us (i think it was grock) that had a lot of scales and keys that you could see on the fretboard. wasn't that you grock?

Matty Boom · Unread post by **Matty Boom** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:54 am

This page has that too...and it has as many scales as you could ever want (at least as many as I could ever want).

borocks · Unread post by **borocks** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:54 am

you have to know some theory to do it (which I don't). I think a lot of experiece is necessary too

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 10:43 am

you dont need all those different scales

just learn the major scale thoroughly. every single scale can be related to that (major and minor pentatonic, blues, and even the minor scale). thinking in terms of one scale will make everything connect much easier

Matty Boom · Unread post by **Matty Boom** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:40 pm

I agree...I suggested those because of how similar they are. The only differences are the feel and a few notes here and there. You're right though, start with one, then go to the next. Start with a pentatonic minor I think.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:41 pm

Matty Boom wrote:I agree...I suggested those because of how similar they are. The only differences are the feel and a few notes here and there. You're right though, start with one, then go to the next. Start with a pentatonic minor I think.

start with the major scale. all the other shapes can be found inside the major scale :wink:

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:43 pm

i agree. i started w/ the pentatonic minor and now im having a hard time learning the rest of the notes. the pent. just leaves out too many notes. start w/ the major like fatjack said and then all you really have to do is learn new shapes and patterns.

Dancing Ants · Unread post by **Dancing Ants** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:56 pm

shapes? All I found were the notes on the fretboard. where do I go from there? I select E Major scale...i think.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:06 pm

memorize them all the way up the fretboard. you should know where every note is from open to fret 12.

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