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bariton guitar?!

Unread post by rampaged.congt » Thu May 08, 2003 4:46 pm

When I go on websites of bands sometime and I see what guitars they're playing I often see that they have so-called "bariton guitars"
what exactly is that? is that just a guitar that you can tune higher without ripping the strings?
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Unread post by jsgksu » Thu May 08, 2003 4:54 pm

I dont exactly know a whole lot about baritone guitars but they are different and sound different and its what Dave used on many of the songs on Everyday and thats why they all sound different. As for the specifics Im sure someone on here will fill you in.
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Unread post by ticohans » Thu May 08, 2003 5:35 pm

They are guitars with a longer scale length, that use a heavier gague strings and sound lower than a regular guitar.

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Unread post by DMB_fan_87 » Thu May 08, 2003 6:57 pm

they are guitars tuned usually a fifth lower....B to B...if memory serves me right....its just to get a growling lower, bassy, ballsy type of feel....ticohans was right.....longer scale length...a lit bit heavier guage strings

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Unread post by rampaged.congt » Fri May 09, 2003 12:10 am

what does the word "guage" mean? - I'm german and I couldn't find that word in any dictionary :?
and can I tune every guitar down to the bariton tuning? I could imagine that the bass-string would be very loose then...
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Unread post by jkanter » Fri May 09, 2003 12:57 am

rampaged.congt wrote:what does the word "guage" mean? - I'm german and I couldn't find that word in any dictionary :?
and can I tune every guitar down to the bariton tuning? I could imagine that the bass-string would be very loose then...
The guage is the thickness of the string being played. No, you cannot tune a regular guitar down to baritone tuning. As you said, the strings would be way too loose. There will be a tutorial on how to convert tabs for a baritone tuned guitar into standard tuning when the new site gets up....enjoy
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Unread post by DustyDave » Fri May 09, 2003 4:29 am

jkanter wrote:
rampaged.congt wrote:what does the word "guage" mean? - I'm german and I couldn't find that word in any dictionary :?
and can I tune every guitar down to the bariton tuning? I could imagine that the bass-string would be very loose then...
The guage is the thickness of the string being played. No, you cannot tune a regular guitar down to baritone tuning. As you said, the strings would be way too loose. There will be a tutorial on how to convert tabs for a baritone tuned guitar into standard tuning when the new site gets up....enjoy
Nice JKanter , can't wait to see what else you have in store for us :lol:

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Unread post by CPTino3001 » Sat May 10, 2003 8:50 pm

I have a Squier Showmaster SubSonic Baritone...

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Baritones are guitars with longer neck scales...I believe my Squire has a 27" neck (about 2" longer than standard), but Danoelectro and Jerry Jones baritones have 29" necks I think (Standard Baritone size)...

It plays just the same as a normal guitar, its just a little bassier...

The strings are higher guage as well...almost a mixture between heavy and bass strings...I think my Danoelectros range from 16 on the high B to 68 on the low B...

Oh and just a word for the wise...don't buy a Baritone and think you can tune it up to play standard tuning songs...You can capo the 5th fret, however it does cut down on your usable neck space...

I mainly use it for drop C stuff like System Of A Down and the occasional Dave song...

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Unread post by DMB_fan_87 » Sat May 10, 2003 9:50 pm

kanter-i have a big baby and was able to tune to B and keep string tension and it actually sounded quite nice

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Unread post by DustyDave » Sun May 11, 2003 6:32 am

DMB_fan_87 wrote:kanter-i have a big baby and was able to tune to B and keep string tension and it actually sounded quite nice
Watchout you don't damage the neck .... :roll:

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Unread post by jkanter » Sun May 11, 2003 11:50 am

DMB_fan_87 wrote:kanter-i have a big baby and was able to tune to B and keep string tension and it actually sounded quite nice
ummmmmm.....I don't see how it is possible to tune a normal guitar to Baritone....it's actually NOT possible. Please share how you did it w/ us all. String Gauges??? String Type???
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Unread post by DMB_fan_87 » Sun May 11, 2003 12:54 pm

lets see....elixer lights...i sware to u it worked....had my tuner with me
it didnt sound spectacular.. but the tension was there and i played so right along with the recording and it sounded the same... believe it or not..its true

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Unread post by jkanter » Sun May 11, 2003 1:35 pm

DMB_fan_87 wrote:lets see....elixer lights...i sware to u it worked....had my tuner with me
it didnt sound spectacular.. but the tension was there and i played so right along with the recording and it sounded the same... believe it or not..its true
Are we talking about Baritone or Raised B here??? There is no way you could have gotten a baritone sound from elixir lights...if that's all you used
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Unread post by DMB_fan_87 » Sun May 11, 2003 4:57 pm

i sware to God i got to baritone tuned B...going down...and i could play

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Unread post by jkanter » Sun May 11, 2003 6:38 pm

DMB_fan_87 wrote:i sware to God i got to baritone tuned B...going down...and i could play
Alright man...I believe you.....I just don't see how it's possible to tune your low E string 5 steps down and still have it have any tension that would sound good. Oh well, sounds good man
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