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Song Keys and Their Moods

Unread post by Grandpagotgame » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:35 pm

So.... I know B-Minor and D-minor are pretty sad. And D seems to be for pretty happy songs. Do you guys know anything about this? What keys would be better for sad and happy songs?

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Unread post by Pickles » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:39 pm

umm... if i played for you a song in D, and then capod 2nd and played a song in E, you really wouldnt notice a difference unless i told you.
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Unread post by gumbomadness » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:49 pm

Major is happy.
minor is sad.

harmonic minor is scary.

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Unread post by Davy28 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:22 pm

harmonic minor is very middle eastern.

If you are into chakra philsopohy there are chakra associations for all seven major keys.

I often like to attribute keys to different feelings. they are as follows, IMO.

Major keys
E- soulful, passionate
F- Hit me with your best shot, bring it on
G- Happy, giddy
A- harnessing power, large and in charge
B- Emotional, tears of joy
C- Laid back, spaced out
D- Reflective, into the music

Minor Keys
Em- In comes the villian, the bolrog of morgath, YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
Fm- Uncertainty invloving love
F#m- Pissed off, disgusted with present circumstances, looking for change.
Gm- Divided between two contrasting feelings
Am- Dark brooding passion, reeking of testosterone.
Bm- All good things come to an end, time to face reality.
Cm- comically dramatic, as if to punctuate a farce.
Dm- quiet, devoted reflection, very nocturnal. The feelings expressed are not repressed but hidden wihtin the soul. This key brings to mind a journey through the night.
Forget about the reasons and the treasons we are seeking
Forget about the notion that our emotions can be swept away, kept at bay
Forget about being guilty, we are innocent instead
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Unread post by Swede » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:26 pm

Davy28 wrote:harmonic minor is very middle eastern.

If you are into chakra philsopohy there are chakra associations for all seven major keys.

I often like to attribute keys to different feelings. they are as follows, IMO.

Major keys
E- soulful, passionate
F- Hit me with your best shot, bring it on
G- Happy, giddy
A- harnessing power, large and in charge
B- Emotional, tears of joy
C- Laid back, spaced out
D- Reflective, into the music

Minor Keys
Em- In comes the villian, the bolrog of morgath, YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
Fm- Uncertainty invloving love
F#m- Pissed off, disgusted with present circumstances, looking for change.
Gm- Divided between two contrasting feelings
Am- Dark brooding passion, reeking of testosterone.
Bm- All good things come to an end, time to face reality.
Cm- comically dramatic, as if to punctuate a farce.
Dm- quiet, devoted reflection, very nocturnal. The feelings expressed are
not repressed but hidden wihtin the soul. This key brings to mind a journey through the night.
u-need a life
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Unread post by Davy28 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:30 pm

Swede wrote:
Davy28 wrote:harmonic minor is very middle eastern.

If you are into chakra philsopohy there are chakra associations for all seven major keys.

I often like to attribute keys to different feelings. they are as follows, IMO.

Major keys
E- soulful, passionate
F- Hit me with your best shot, bring it on
G- Happy, giddy
A- harnessing power, large and in charge
B- Emotional, tears of joy
C- Laid back, spaced out
D- Reflective, into the music

Minor Keys
Em- In comes the villian, the bolrog of morgath, YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
Fm- Uncertainty invloving love
F#m- Pissed off, disgusted with present circumstances, looking for change.
Gm- Divided between two contrasting feelings
Am- Dark brooding passion, reeking of testosterone.
Bm- All good things come to an end, time to face reality.
Cm- comically dramatic, as if to punctuate a farce.
Dm- quiet, devoted reflection, very nocturnal. The feelings expressed are
not repressed but hidden wihtin the soul. This key brings to mind a journey through the night.
u-need a life
Screw you. Can I help it if I like to write my own music? Can I help it if being musically deep and descriptive attracts chicks (After, of course, I've sat through their rendition of their life story)?
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Forget about being guilty, we are innocent instead
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Unread post by fatjack » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:30 pm

you wont be able to tell the difference unless you have perfect pitch

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Unread post by Swede » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:31 pm

Davy28 wrote:
Swede wrote:
Davy28 wrote:harmonic minor is very middle eastern.

If you are into chakra philsopohy there are chakra associations for all seven major keys.

I often like to attribute keys to different feelings. they are as follows, IMO.

Major keys
E- soulful, passionate
F- Hit me with your best shot, bring it on
G- Happy, giddy
A- harnessing power, large and in charge
B- Emotional, tears of joy
C- Laid back, spaced out
D- Reflective, into the music

Minor Keys
Em- In comes the villian, the bolrog of morgath, YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
Fm- Uncertainty invloving love
F#m- Pissed off, disgusted with present circumstances, looking for change.
Gm- Divided between two contrasting feelings
Am- Dark brooding passion, reeking of testosterone.
Bm- All good things come to an end, time to face reality.
Cm- comically dramatic, as if to punctuate a farce.
Dm- quiet, devoted reflection, very nocturnal. The feelings expressed are
not repressed but hidden wihtin the soul. This key brings to mind a journey through the night.
u-need a life
Screw you. Can I help it if I like to write my own music? Can I help it if being musically deep and descriptive attracts chicks (After, of course, I've sat through their rendition of their life story)?
i forgot the: j/k :wink:
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Unread post by Grandpagotgame » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:31 pm

Davy28 wrote:harmonic minor is very middle eastern.

If you are into chakra philsopohy there are chakra associations for all seven major keys.

I often like to attribute keys to different feelings. they are as follows, IMO.

Major keys
E- soulful, passionate
F- Hit me with your best shot, bring it on
G- Happy, giddy
A- harnessing power, large and in charge
B- Emotional, tears of joy
C- Laid back, spaced out
D- Reflective, into the music

Minor Keys
Em- In comes the villian, the bolrog of morgath, YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
Fm- Uncertainty invloving love
F#m- Pissed off, disgusted with present circumstances, looking for change.
Gm- Divided between two contrasting feelings
Am- Dark brooding passion, reeking of testosterone.
Bm- All good things come to an end, time to face reality.
Cm- comically dramatic, as if to punctuate a farce.
Dm- quiet, devoted reflection, very nocturnal. The feelings expressed are not repressed but hidden wihtin the soul. This key brings to mind a journey through the night.
Thanks a bunch. I am goign to try and start writing my own stuff. What does it mean to have perfect pitch?/

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Unread post by fatjack » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:44 pm

Grandpagotgame wrote:What does it mean to have perfect pitch?/
perfect pitch is being able to distinguish individual notes without a reference note. example, a train rides by and toots its horn. a person with perfect pitch would be able to tell you what note that train horn is blowing.

without perfect pitch, most people have what's called relative pitch. Which means they are able to distinguish notes based upon another note. Lets say someone plays a C on the piano and tells the person with relative pitch that it is a C. The person with relative pitch would be able to tell what other notes are when they hear them based upon the first pitch they were given (in this case C).

this is why most people cant tell the difference in song keys. of course you can hear a difference between major and minor, but if you were to transpose a song from Dm to Em, you wouldn't really be able to tell the difference

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Unread post by Davy28 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:04 pm

Wow! I must have perfect pitch. I've never known what perfect pitch is until now, but I have had the ability to do what fatjack said (the whole train whistle thing) almost as long as I have been a musician for simple reason of having played every single note and in every single key so often that I can judge their pitchs by ear.

Even trickier is the ability to know perfect tone (440 hz) for every note. Even I cannot do that consistently.
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Unread post by Davy28 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:13 pm

Other than what I just said, the ability to hear song keys without a reference note is possible for everyone unless of course you are tone deaf. It comes with experience and careful listening of music and then the playing of it.

For me, certain chords and keys have different songs in which those chords or key exist, and I associate them with the song and this serves as a reference point for my ears. For example, I know Em immediately because in the song Too High. Dave plays an Em as follows "All you need to hope you keep your head.......yeah......" BAM. Em. I have both played that song enough and listened to know the chord intuitively. Another example is F#, which is the first chord of the Jack Johnson song inaudible melodies.

Judging the keys just by hearing a solo is tougher, but again you gain experience by playing in all keys and can learn to hear the root, 5th, and 3rd notes in the scale that give the solo its structure.
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Forget about the notion that our emotions can be swept away, kept at bay
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Unread post by fatjack » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:38 pm

Davy28 wrote:Wow! I must have perfect pitch. I've never known what perfect pitch is until now, but I have had the ability to do what fatjack said (the whole train whistle thing) almost as long as I have been a musician for simple reason of having played every single note and in every single key so often that I can judge their pitchs by ear.

Even trickier is the ability to know perfect tone (440 hz) for every note. Even I cannot do that consistently.
i highly doubt that you have perfect pitch, and there is no way for me to believe you unless i actually witness it

and perfect pitch isn't just being able to hear what note it is, you also haer whether or not its perfectly tuned.

having perfect pitch is kind of a blessing and a curse at the same time. its cool to be able to hear so well, but from people i have met that have it, they say that when a note is even SLIGHTLY out of tune, its very annoying to them

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Unread post by HCHaikuWarrior » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:07 pm

fatjack wrote:
Davy28 wrote:Wow! I must have perfect pitch. I've never known what perfect pitch is until now, but I have had the ability to do what fatjack said (the whole train whistle thing) almost as long as I have been a musician for simple reason of having played every single note and in every single key so often that I can judge their pitchs by ear.

Even trickier is the ability to know perfect tone (440 hz) for every note. Even I cannot do that consistently.
i highly doubt that you have perfect pitch, and there is no way for me to believe you unless i actually witness it

and perfect pitch isn't just being able to hear what note it is, you also haer whether or not its perfectly tuned.

having perfect pitch is kind of a blessing and a curse at the same time. its cool to be able to hear so well, but from people i have met that have it, they say that when a note is even SLIGHTLY out of tune, its very annoying to them
no, i think you're just jealous that he may have it and you don't.
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Unread post by sunglassesatnight » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:14 pm

HCHaikuWarrior wrote:
fatjack wrote:
Davy28 wrote:Wow! I must have perfect pitch. I've never known what perfect pitch is until now, but I have had the ability to do what fatjack said (the whole train whistle thing) almost as long as I have been a musician for simple reason of having played every single note and in every single key so often that I can judge their pitchs by ear.

Even trickier is the ability to know perfect tone (440 hz) for every note. Even I cannot do that consistently.
i highly doubt that you have perfect pitch, and there is no way for me to believe you unless i actually witness it

and perfect pitch isn't just being able to hear what note it is, you also haer whether or not its perfectly tuned.

having perfect pitch is kind of a blessing and a curse at the same time. its cool to be able to hear so well, but from people i have met that have it, they say that when a note is even SLIGHTLY out of tune, its very annoying to them
no, i think you're just jealous that he may have it and you don't.
I too doubt it. It's not common. Not at all.

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