Song Keys and Their Moods

[DMBFan63]

Learn to use grammar.

You need a comma or the use of "you".

what a searing jab, considering that i never really bother to punctuate correctly

and grandpa- good luck with your writing.

are you trying to make yourself look like a dumbass with that shitty use of sarcasm?

you need to calm down FJ, any time you come back to the boards it always seems like you're picking a fight with someone, or trying to impress people with what you know - no need to rub it in

and getting back to perfect pitch - its kind of you know or you don't - i know i don't but a good friend of mine who is an amazing people player has it for sure - he'd play the piano at my house (which hasn't been tuned in years) and like you guys said, just get a little annoyed- it was kinda fun to test him haha, i'd play a random note on my guitar and make it so it was a bit out of tune by moving the string up or down - he got it everytime - hes a musical genius

I disagree. Heathcliff took the first shot at Josh. I highly doubt anyone here has perfect pitch, Especially hearing how most recordings are out of tune. That wouldn't happen with people who have perfect pitch. I back FJ up here, no doubt. I'm guessing atleast 50% of the people here have relative pitch, because that's very easy to learn just over time of playing.

Good day all. I don't come here very often anymore just due to some people that accuse every other person of being stuck up or just thinking everyone attacks someone because they feel like it. The only person I've ever seen do anything remotely similar is elliot. peace out

[Davy28]

quit while your behind davy. mwr and fatjack know the shit...
ya.. accidentals.. no one can tell unless with perfect pitch but that isnt what makes it have a "tear jerking" melody. transpose it to the key of C (with no accidentals) and it would be the same way. C D E F G A B may REALLY be C# D# A# but frankly we just labeled them.. music is all relative. its a ratio between the sounds that makes the scales and they cant hold specific moods to them, unless you are talking a different TYPE such as harmonic minor as opposed to major.

Jesus, you guys are totally missing the point. I'm being as subjective as one can be and am not labeling anything, just expressing what I myself think and feel about certain keys. I've noticed that fatjack has gotten testy in the past when it comes to technical knowledge and people making subjective statements that, however obscure, tend to contradict some facet of his extensive musical knowledge.

[MWR]

Fair enough. I wasn't quite sure if you were being subjective but that clears it up. Sorry if I misinterpreted what you were saying.

[Davy28]

No worries.

[fatjack]

One thing I often notice is that songs in keys that are accidental (sharp or flat) tend to be like tears of joy in a way, like the song Be here to love me (Van Zandt cover by norah jones) is in Ab major but the harmony is so cool that I get choked up everytime I sing and play along.

that has nothing to do with the flats in the key

I mean keys like C# major or D# major

I can see why it is often a curse to be a music major because you cannot let the music just flow over you emoitionally, you have to dig into it and look at the technical, melodic and harmonic aspects as opposed to the emotional.

that's stupid, just plain stupid.

and regardless of what you say, what key a song in has nothing to do with the emotional aspect of the song. it all has to do with harmonic progression, the rising and falling of voices, etc.

its funny that you mention music "flowing" over you. my theory teaching said something along these lines the very first day: "its okay to let the music just flow over you or for you to just be awestruck at certain aspects of music, that will happen; but, as musicians you should be able to understand what about it creates this feeling, because if you understand why certain motions in music create certain moods, then you can recreate it in your own music."

[i like tictacs]

the ignorance in this thread is astounding

[MWR]

Give him a fucking break. He doesn't need to be called ignorant for a having subjective opinion.

[fatjack]

Give him a fucking break. He doesn't need to be called ignorant for a having subjective opinion.

but he can be called ignorant for assuming i have some sort of "curse" because im a music major

[Davy28]

Give him a fucking break. He doesn't need to be called ignorant for a having subjective opinion.

but he can be called ignorant for assuming i have some sort of "curse" because im a music major

Now you are just being cranky. Did you read a word I said? I didn't assume anything.

[dmbsaxboyz]

Give him a fucking break. He doesn't need to be called ignorant for a having subjective opinion.

but he can be called ignorant for assuming i have some sort of "curse" because im a music major

im just curious, what kind of music major are ya?

and for my opnion on the topic(s) so far... major= happy minor=sad, 'most' of the time, or maybe not even most, but alot of the time. it's really more 'how' it is used then 'what' is used.

perfect pitch is rare, yes. but i know 3 people that have it. everyone else, including myself, that wood like to think they have it just have relative pitch. but more and more these days there are people with perfect pitch, but cannot fully distinguish whether or not it is perfectly in tune.

o.0

[i like tictacs]

Give him a fucking break. He doesn't need to be called ignorant for a having subjective opinion.

rawr. who pissed in your cheerios this morning, or who shit on your toast?


sure the opinion is subjective, but its crappy. and the line needs to be drawn somewhere.

[fatjack]

Give him a fucking break. He doesn't need to be called ignorant for a having subjective opinion.

but he can be called ignorant for assuming i have some sort of "curse" because im a music major

Now you are just being cranky. Did you read a word I said? I didn't assume anything.

yes you did, you assumed that i cant feel emotion in music because i have knowledge of its technical aspects. that's an ignorant statement