Ask Fatjack

[MWR]

You mind explaining "targeting" or linking to good site about it? I'm not asking for anything to in depth just the basic concept.

i figured you would already know about this...

anyway, targeting has to do with playing specific tones at specific times. the most common target note is the tonic, because most every other tone resolves to it.

the concept of target notes has to do with the solos relationship to the progression, melody, and other harmonies. for instance, if you are solo in a progression and a G7 comes up, a good not to target would be F because its G's b7. the concept of playing arpeggios is the exact same as target notes.

target notes usually deal with what note you end a phrase on, basically you are "targeting" a certain note to end on

Thanks
I've heard of the concept before but It was never really clarified

[fatjack]

So just how overweight are you, and have you considered the atkins diet?

im not overweight at all, underweight actually. and the atkins diet is a bunch of bullshit

i hope you aren't trying to be mean because i said you sound like john mayer

[Jc]

Nah, I don't hold grudges. Especially when somebody manages to be as tacftul as you fatty

[Duffman]

i have a question. i go to looknohands.com and look at the scales, and there are three minor scales. harmonic, melodic (ascending), and melodic (decending). what is the difference between these? and how do they relate to major scales, because to build a minor chord from a major, you lower the 3rd a half and the 7th a whole.

[MWR]

Nevermind. This is his thread so I'll let him field the questions.
I think a more pertinant question would be: where and how do I USE these scales?

[fatjack]

i have a question. i go to looknohands.com and look at the scales, and there are three minor scales. harmonic, melodic (ascending), and melodic (decending). what is the difference between these? and how do they relate to major scales, because to build a minor chord from a major, you lower the 3rd a half and the 7th a whole.

wonderful question: one the i will enjoy answering.

first of all, the melodic minor is the just one scale, but you have to play it differently when you ascend and descend. when you ascend you play the 1,2,b3,4,5,6,7. when you descend you play the natural minor (1,2,b3,4,5,b6,b7). this is strictly in a classical sense, most guitarists wont change whether they are going up and down because it just gets too complicated and makes the scale very difficult to use.

and how do they relate to the major scale you ask? simple, they dont (except for of course what degrees are used). the melodic and harmonic minors don't translate to major scales. basically, they are a whole different set of keys. although you wont see "the key of B harmonic minor," they have completely different key sigs from any major scale. think of it this way, there are 12 different major scales, 12 different harmonic minor scales, and 12 different melodic minor scales. because they don't relate to any other major scale, they are harmonized completely different and thusly have different chords. in fact, the harmonic minor scale has a degree that can be either a major or minor chord

and if you were looking for how to build the scales, i already gave you the melodic, and the harmonic would be the 1,2,b3,4,5,b6,7

[fatjack]

Nevermind. This is his thread so I'll let him field the questions.
I think a more pertinant question would be: where and how do I USE these scales?

grrrr, this is ASK FATJACK, not ASK MWR!!!

just messin

[MWR]

Hey yo! I realized that and edited it accordingly. Your answer was better than mine anyway.

[whatshername]

so, uh..why are you so sexy..eh, josh? :rawr:

[Beauford33]

Books can only get you so far. Look at John Mayer. Theory up the wazoo. Dave, not too much theroy but a good ear. Oh god please dont turn this into a John/Dave thread. Sorry.

[fatjack]

so, uh..why are you so sexy..eh, josh? :rawr:

i dunno...

have you turned into sarah with that "rawr"

[fatjack]

Nevermind. This is his thread so I'll let him field the questions.
I think a more pertinant question would be: where and how do I USE these scales?

not a lot of use for them, you can throw them in there in a few phrases in a lot of songs, but for the most part, you couldn't stay in those scales. if you want to use them extensively, you'd have to find (or write) a song based upon the scale

[Beauford33]

How did you end up looking like the way you do? Thats a toughy

[Duffman]

i have a question. i go to looknohands.com and look at the scales, and there are three minor scales. harmonic, melodic (ascending), and melodic (decending). what is the difference between these? and how do they relate to major scales, because to build a minor chord from a major, you lower the 3rd a half and the 7th a whole.

wonderful question: one the i will enjoy answering.

first of all, the melodic minor is the just one scale, but you have to play it differently when you ascend and descend. when you ascend you play the 1,2,b3,4,5,6,7. when you descend you play the natural minor (1,2,b3,4,5,b6,b7). this is strictly in a classical sense, most guitarists wont change whether they are going up and down because it just gets too complicated and makes the scale very difficult to use.

and how do they relate to the major scale you ask? simple, they dont (except for of course what degrees are used). the melodic and harmonic minors don't translate to major scales. basically, they are a whole different set of keys. although you wont see "the key of B harmonic minor," they have completely different key sigs from any major scale. think of it this way, there are 12 different major scales, 12 different harmonic minor scales, and 12 different melodic minor scales. because they don't relate to any other major scale, they are harmonized completely different and thusly have different chords. in fact, the harmonic minor scale has a degree that can be either a major or minor chord

and if you were looking for how to build the scales, i already gave you the melodic, and the harmonic would be the 1,2,b3,4,5,b6,7

do these scales relate to minor chords? can you have a harmonic and melodic minor chords?

[fatjack]

How did you end up looking like the way you do? Thats a toughy

um... i was born?