What makes us so elite?

[Matty Boom]

it is determination...the other guitar site i am a member of, i went and asked them the hardest song i could possibly learn. they all said eruption by evh. they also tols me there was no way in hell that i could learn it. i did. i did it because they said i couldnt. i dont know about all of you, but when someone tells me i cant do something, that is the best way to get me to work my ass off trying to do it.

I agree with you. I think determination(pratice) is what brings musicians to the next level of their playing. I dont think Eruption is the hargest song to play/learn though, but its still a tough song-

yea, i've never learned eruption but one of my buddies said it definitely wasn't as hard as it sounds

led_zep123 wrote:
it wouldnt physically hurt you. it would hurt a lot, but you would recover. we are talking about more than skills, we are talking love of the instrument. if you learn on a heavy gague strings you get faster. it is like working out, yo have a ton or weight for a long time and then switch to something light. it is so much eeasier. that is how i did it, and some of the greatest guitarists of all time. jimi hendrix got his first guitar from a pawn shop.


I might suck at playing the guitar, however, I do know that trying to play the guitar with a broken hand has the potential to do alot more than physically hurt you. Depending on the fracture and the location you could do nerve damage, rupture blood vessels and cause further damage to your hand which might decrease your overall range of motion and dexterity. At that point the only guitar your gonna rock out on would be the air guitar.

i've played sports with broken fingers, foot, rib, dislocated ribs...the damage is done in the break, there's a small chance of doing any damage that they can't fix these days

led_zep123 wrote:
jsgksu wrote:
led_zep123 wrote:
ok man...where did you ever hear that if you play a hard song you are elite? the true measure is a guitaist who can play on any guitar. i could play eruption with a $30 guitar from wal-mart. that is how you rate yourself. by how well you can play on a guitar that is not in your favor "performance-wise"


I dont understand what sense this makes, if I can play good music on a cheap guitar I am an elite amazing guitarist. Its not like I wouldnt be able to play anything I know now on a shitty guitar. And you cant make it sound good if its just a shitty guitar, what are you talking about.

when the ods are against you will you sit and cry? if your fingers bleed will you still play, like george harrison did? if you break your hand before a concert will you just not play? guitar is all about determination. you cant sit and do nothing and expect to be the greatest guitarist of all time. u dont need a 3 grand guitar to be good, you need skills first...what was your first guitar? can you play everything you know on it? if you cant the it is the guitar that is good, not you. do you hear me now?


Im sorry but this makes no sense whatsoever, I have a fucking guitar my uncle got for $50 and 2000 Marlboro miles and I can fucking jam out on it and that doesnt make me any better or worse than if I had a fucking shoe box and a stick with some strings or the $1200 Taylor Ill have in a week or two. And what is all this sit and cry and fingers bleeding, a beginner could play theyre first time till their fingers bled and theyd still be a shitty beginner. And who said you can sit and do nothing and become a great guitarist, certainly not anyone here but thats got nothing to do with what kinda guitar they have. Sorry but I dont "hear you know" cuz you dont make a bit of sense, I dont know if youre trying to be all deep for some reason but it comes out as complete nonsense. Matty, sorry if this takes me off your nice guy list but wtf is he rambling about? Anyone explain this?

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[led_zep123]

it isint...nothing is as hard as it sounds. but it isint something tom delonge could learn...you must have skill, accuracy, and speed.

[Matty Boom]

and a shitty guitar, or was it an awesome guitar, or a harmonica

[jjcucio]

I would say, play until your heart's content. Play fast, slow, good music, shitty music, 99% of people who play is for a hobbie, not to be the "Elite" in anyone's mind. I like playing because it sounds like the music i have liked all my life. Its just a fun thing to do. If you play to be the best, good luck, but as we all know from the dave vs mayer type conversations, no matter what....no ONE person will ever be the ELITE. Play on for shits and grins!

[jjcucio]

I dont mean to be disrespectful, but alot of arrogance is showing in the discussion, until you are on TV getting the best guitarist ever award, you are not elite. Besides, think about it, most of what we all play are other peoples songs. People are deemed the smartest, best, fastest, or whatever for breaking the rules and doing stuff nobody else has done. You guys are bragging someone elses work that is hard to copy...nothing elite in that at all.

[DustyDave]

I dont mean to be disrespectful, but alot of arrogance is showing in the discussion, until you are on TV getting the best guitarist ever award, you are not elite. Besides, think about it, most of what we all play are other peoples songs. People are deemed the smartest, best, fastest, or whatever for breaking the rules and doing stuff nobody else has done. You guys are bragging someone elses work that is hard to copy...nothing elite in that at all.

Some of your statemets i agree on , but saying that you aren't Elite before you show up on TV and recieve an award for being the best guitarist , thats not a right way of putting it , there is a million guitar players out there with so much talent , who just don't get the chance to end up on tv , others don't wanna go on tv , but simply just likes to entertain themself , on that part you're very wrong ....

For the bragging on how to play other peoples songs i would partially agree , sure it sounds great when you hear a cover that just blow you away like the original artist , but it doesn't take the same kinda talents as writing your own songs do

[taylordb]

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I'm with Matty....it's all about having fun. Michelle Shocked once said "...everyone could, and should, make music". Some of the times I remember the most fun (in my almost 33 years of guitar playing...thats right 33 years) was sitting in a group of guitar players and jamming all night...and alot of them had been playing less than a month...we just showed the new guys some simple stuff to play along and it was FUN. Anyway, after all those years it is that that I remember most fondly....not the time I played the most incredible lick or complicated progression.

As far as playing fast or complicated stuff is concerned....I will quote one of the greatest guitar players of all time (IMHO)...Danny Gatton : “It’s easy to do the showoff thing,” he said. “But it takes time to learn how to portray one’s emotions through a piece of wood with a pickup on it.”

[DustyDave]

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I'm with Matty....it's all about having fun. Michelle Shocked once said "...everyone could, and should, make music". Some of the times I remember the most fun (in my almost 33 years of guitar playing...thats right 33 years) was sitting in a group of guitar players and jamming all night...and alot of them had been playing less than a month...we just showed the new guys some simple stuff to play along and it was FUN. Anyway, after all those years it is that that I remember most fondly....not the time I played the most incredible lick or complicated progression.

As far as playing fast or complicated stuff is concerned....I will quote one of the greatest guitar players of all time (IMHO)...Danny Gatton : “It’s easy to do the showoff thing,” he said. “But it takes time to learn how to portray one’s emotions through a piece of wood with a pickup on it.”

Yes definitely , its all about fun , and if you notice it , some of the worlds most famous songs are basic 3 chord progressions