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Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:04 am

Guitar One wrote:Man, there's some right unpleasant comments about Chris here. Let me say something:
I don't think that his guitar work is spectacular, and I don't think he's (God forbid!) near as good as Dave, but he definitely does some interesting stuff with his guitar, with and without open tunings. Perhaps your information on how he plays his songs is somewhat incorrect, but here are some chords that he uses in just one of his songs (Saints and Sailors)
starting with low e
9 9 12 x x x O x 9 12 11 x x O x 8 10 12 x x
x x 5 7 8 0 O x x 7 6 7 0 O x 7 6 7 x x

Now, I'm no rabid supported of Dashboard by any means, but I think his stuff is fun to play, and it's always a big hit with the ladies.

first of all, you gotta lighten up man

most of us know there are plenty of guitarists out there that are better than dave, we just like to talk about others.

second of all, everyone has something to say about everyone, so dont' get offended if someone says something bad about someone you like, just wait til you meet Gcomm.

and third, chris uses some stranger chords than those, but its because he never plays in standard, hell i dont' even think he knows what standard is. he plays in wierd tunings, which again accentuate the music he sings. and the fact that he was a one man band, the open tunings give the guitar a fuller sound. our beef w/ him is his out of range screamin. that's all

EDIT: well that's most people's beef w/ him. but he does get the ladies (that bastard)

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:06 am

aww. he's so sensitive, he can scream. :roll:

hehe. and i don't know. dave doesn't scream excessively. chris does. if he'd just tone it down a little...but then it wouldn't be emo.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:08 am

isaac wrote:aww. he's so sensitive, he can scream.

hehe. and i don't know. dave doesn't scream excessively. chris does. if he'd just tone it down a little...but then it wouldn't be emo.

exactly

Guitar One · Unread post by **Guitar One** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:23 am

He has to scream. Have you heard his natural voice? It's pretty girly. He has to scream to make himself sound a little manly.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:24 am

Guitar One wrote:He has to scream. Have you heard his natural voice? It's pretty girly. He has to scream to make himself sound a little manly.

hehe, yea, i went to see chevelle live. it was freaking awesome, but then when he went to talk, he sounded like one of the chipmunks on helium. i was like Quit talking and sing!!!

StarSlight · Unread post by **StarSlight** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:14 am

I don't mind Dashboard. Gets really corny sometimes, but he has a few really good songs.

Also, he only has like 5 or 6 songs in alternate tunings, all of which are variations on open D. So about 10% of his songs are in non-standard (Eb) tuning.

mbgreen · Unread post by **mbgreen** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:27 am

Though the screaming is like nails on a chalkboard for me, his lyrics turn me off almost as much. It seems like all of his songs are about what a loser he is, and how some girl fucked him over. And the lyrics are for the most part tired and cliche. I'm pretty sure he's a eunich. He's just kind of a BITCH, if you'll excuse me saying so, and I cant listen to someone with such a severe lack of balls. That is all.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:32 am

StarSlight wrote:I don't mind Dashboard. Gets really corny sometimes, but he has a few really good songs.

Also, he only has like 5 or 6 songs in alternate tunings, all of which are variations on open D. So about 10% of his songs are in non-standard (Eb) tuning.

im kinda lost on your stats, im not sure if you were trying to say most of his stuff is in standard. if so, then no, you're wrong, like 95 percent of his stuff is in open tunings, and the other 10 percent is alternate tunings that aren't open. ive never seen anything standard or half a step down standard. go to http://www.dashtabs.com all of his stuff is in messed up tunings. variations or not.

Guitar One · Unread post by **Guitar One** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:27 am

Appsoldier wrote:
StarSlight wrote:I don't mind Dashboard. Gets really corny sometimes, but he has a few really good songs.

Also, he only has like 5 or 6 songs in alternate tunings, all of which are variations on open D. So about 10% of his songs are in non-standard (Eb) tuning.
im kinda lost on your stats, im not sure if you were trying to say most of his stuff is in standard. if so, then no, you're wrong, like 95 percent of his stuff is in open tunings, and the other 10 percent is alternate tunings that aren't open. ive never seen anything standard or half a step down standard. go to http://www.dashtabs.com all of his stuff is in messed up tunings. variations or not.

I don't know... maybe some tabs are like that, but I can play perfect versions of The Ruined Puzzle, Hands Down, and The Standard Lines with it just tuned down a half step. Maybe Chris uses different tunings, I dunno.

Guitar One · Unread post by **Guitar One** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:34 am

Also, I know I'll probably disagree with a whole lot of people on this thread when I say this, but I think "screaming" can be an effective tool. It can be used to heighten emotion, or just sound intimidating. My inspiration for this comment: Slipknot. That man has more passion in his little finger than many singers do in there whole bodies. Now commence beatdown.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:41 am

Guitar One wrote:Also, I know I'll probably disagree with a whole lot of people on this thread when I say this, but I think "screaming" can be an effective tool. It can be used to heighten emotion, or just sound intimidating. My inspiration for this comment: Slipknot. That man has more passion in his little finger than many singers do in there whole bodies. Now commence beatdown.

::slaps you in the face for referencing Slipknot::

screaming in all of your songs=no talent

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:28 am

screaming gets so damn boring, and irritating. Jeff Buckley's cover of Dido's Lament at the Meltdown Festival over excessive screaming any damn day.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:25 am

yea, screaming, IF USED RIGHT can be effective. no one should do it all the time, all that proves is that you can do it w/o your voice going bad. (but if you have to scream all the time your voice probably wasn't very good to start w/)

StarSlight · Unread post by **StarSlight** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:29 am

Appsoldier wrote:
StarSlight wrote:I don't mind Dashboard. Gets really corny sometimes, but he has a few really good songs.

Also, he only has like 5 or 6 songs in alternate tunings, all of which are variations on open D. So about 10% of his songs are in non-standard (Eb) tuning.
im kinda lost on your stats, im not sure if you were trying to say most of his stuff is in standard. if so, then no, you're wrong, like 95 percent of his stuff is in open tunings, and the other 10 percent is alternate tunings that aren't open. ive never seen anything standard or half a step down standard. go to http://www.dashtabs.com all of his stuff is in messed up tunings. variations or not.

I go there all the time, and there are only 5 or 6 that aren't in Eb standard or Eb drop D. But it's not really worth arguing over.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:38 am

StarSlight wrote:
Appsoldier wrote:
StarSlight wrote:I don't mind Dashboard. Gets really corny sometimes, but he has a few really good songs.

Also, he only has like 5 or 6 songs in alternate tunings, all of which are variations on open D. So about 10% of his songs are in non-standard (Eb) tuning.
im kinda lost on your stats, im not sure if you were trying to say most of his stuff is in standard. if so, then no, you're wrong, like 95 percent of his stuff is in open tunings, and the other 10 percent is alternate tunings that aren't open. ive never seen anything standard or half a step down standard. go to http://www.dashtabs.com all of his stuff is in messed up tunings. variations or not.
I go there all the time, and there are only 5 or 6 that aren't in Eb standard or Eb drop D. But it's not really worth arguing over.

dude, im not arguing, you're just wrong. they have standard tabs for the same purpose as here putting stuff in standard so we can play it w/o having to retune. the correct tabs are the ones he uses...the open tunings.

EDIT: just watch unplugged 2.0

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