The I, IV, and V chords will also be the most predictable. Although you can use that idea in key changing situations. The V7 will always have the srongest push back to I. So you can play the V7 of the key you want to be in and then the I of the new key. It makes key changes a lot smoother.two_stepper10 wrote:Jeffro...to short answer when you asked how to know what chords fit together well when you write, there is a method called the three chord theory. Deals with finding the I, IV, V chords from the one you are starting with and those are the ones that will go together nicely. Im sure Fatjack can help you out on aim, just figured I'd throw in my knowlegde. You could always search the web for that and I'm sure you'd be able to find something, or free feel to aim me as well if you want more explanation!
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OK, I've got one for you: Lets say for example I'm in the key of G.
Would D mixolydian which I believe would be the modal scale based on the V of that key be OK to use for soloing over any of the I, IV, V chords in that key, or only when the progression is on the V chord. I'm trying to break out of the pentatonic box a little bit.
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Would D mixolydian which I believe would be the modal scale based on the V of that key be OK to use for soloing over any of the I, IV, V chords in that key, or only when the progression is on the V chord. I'm trying to break out of the pentatonic box a little bit.
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it would be fine to use, because it is the same scale as G major, you just have to listen to the chord changes to know what notes sound best with what chords (that has to do with target notes, which is a whole different subject)johnnyd wrote:OK, I've got one for you: Lets say for example I'm in the key of G.
Would D mixolydian which I believe would be the modal scale based on the V of that key be OK to use for soloing over any of the I, IV, V chords in that key, or only when the progression is on the V chord. I'm trying to break out of the pentatonic box a little bit.
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i didn't use the tab very much, bu that looks about right.DropD-MB wrote:Did you ever post a cover of Hopeful Heresy? And if so what is the verse tab that you used? Did you use the one TimReynolds.com?
I having trouble with the second lick on the verse:
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e---------------------------------------------------- B--0-1----1--1----1-----1---0-1---3----------1-----1- G--0------0--0----2-----2---0-------2---2----2-----2- D---------------------------------------------------- A-------2------------3----------------2---------3---- E-----3---------1--------------3-----------1---------
when i asked to field questions, i was thinking more along a theoretical/guitar tech type line. there is nothing i can do to help your technique, except tell you to listen to the song and keep practicing
btw, you wouldn't call that the verse of the song. sections of songs without lyrics are labelled with a verse, chorus, or bridge. that are labelled as section A, B, C etc.
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Hell, when does Timmy have lyricsfatjack wrote:DropD-MB wrote:Did you ever post a cover of Hopeful Heresy? And if so what is the verse tab that you used? Did you use the one TimReynolds.com?
I having trouble with the second lick on the verse:
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e---------------------------------------------------- B--0-1----1--1----1-----1---0-1---3----------1-----1- G--0------0--0----2-----2---0-------2---2----2-----2- D---------------------------------------------------- A-------2------------3----------------2---------3---- E-----3---------1--------------3-----------1---------
i didn't use the tab very much, bu that looks about right.
when i asked to field questions, i was thinking more along a theoretical/guitar tech type line. there is nothing i can do to help your technique, except tell you to listen to the song and keep practicing
btw, you wouldn't call that the verse of the song. sections of songs without lyrics are labelled with a verse, chorus, or bridge. that are labelled as section A, B, C etc.
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a few songs he does..DropD-MB wrote:Hell, when does Timmy have lyricsfatjack wrote:DropD-MB wrote:Did you ever post a cover of Hopeful Heresy? And if so what is the verse tab that you used? Did you use the one TimReynolds.com?
I having trouble with the second lick on the verse:
--------------------------------------This part aboveCode: Select all
e---------------------------------------------------- B--0-1----1--1----1-----1---0-1---3----------1-----1- G--0------0--0----2-----2---0-------2---2----2-----2- D---------------------------------------------------- A-------2------------3----------------2---------3---- E-----3---------1--------------3-----------1---------
i didn't use the tab very much, bu that looks about right.
when i asked to field questions, i was thinking more along a theoretical/guitar tech type line. there is nothing i can do to help your technique, except tell you to listen to the song and keep practicing
btw, you wouldn't call that the verse of the song. sections of songs without lyrics are labelled with a verse, chorus, or bridge. that are labelled as section A, B, C etc.
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i never said that he did, im just saying, for songs without lyrics (like most all of timmy's), you dont refer to parts as verse, chorus, or bridgeDropD-MB wrote:Hell, when does Timmy have lyricsfatjack wrote:DropD-MB wrote:Did you ever post a cover of Hopeful Heresy? And if so what is the verse tab that you used? Did you use the one TimReynolds.com?
I having trouble with the second lick on the verse:
--------------------------------------This part aboveCode: Select all
e---------------------------------------------------- B--0-1----1--1----1-----1---0-1---3----------1-----1- G--0------0--0----2-----2---0-------2---2----2-----2- D---------------------------------------------------- A-------2------------3----------------2---------3---- E-----3---------1--------------3-----------1---------
i didn't use the tab very much, bu that looks about right.
when i asked to field questions, i was thinking more along a theoretical/guitar tech type line. there is nothing i can do to help your technique, except tell you to listen to the song and keep practicing
btw, you wouldn't call that the verse of the song. sections of songs without lyrics are labelled with a verse, chorus, or bridge. that are labelled as section A, B, C etc.
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fatjack wrote:it would be fine to use, because it is the same scale as G major, you just have to listen to the chord changes to know what notes sound best with what chords (that has to do with target notes, which is a whole different subject)johnnyd wrote:OK, I've got one for you: Lets say for example I'm in the key of G.
Would D mixolydian which I believe would be the modal scale based on the V of that key be OK to use for soloing over any of the I, IV, V chords in that key, or only when the progression is on the V chord. I'm trying to break out of the pentatonic box a little bit.
Thanks
Gotcha, it would depend on the progression as to what the target notes are. I've been listening to guys like Wes Montgomery and Kenny Burrell lately. It's got me interested in jazz theory. It opens up a whole new world of soloing possibilities.
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the best advice i can give you is to memorize the major scale over twelve frets, then you will know every single modejohnnyd wrote:fatjack wrote:it would be fine to use, because it is the same scale as G major, you just have to listen to the chord changes to know what notes sound best with what chords (that has to do with target notes, which is a whole different subject)johnnyd wrote:OK, I've got one for you: Lets say for example I'm in the key of G.
Would D mixolydian which I believe would be the modal scale based on the V of that key be OK to use for soloing over any of the I, IV, V chords in that key, or only when the progression is on the V chord. I'm trying to break out of the pentatonic box a little bit.
Thanks
Gotcha, it would depend on the progression as to what the target notes are. I've been listening to guys like Wes Montgomery and Kenny Burrell lately. It's got me interested in jazz theory. It opens up a whole new world of soloing possibilities.
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fatjack wrote:
hmmm, i was actually asking something i guess you didn't know about...
are you basically looking for another guitar part that would go along with that progression? you may not realize it, but what you wrote down is harmony. chord progressions are, in themselves, harmony. if you want to harmonize further with progression, you can just do different voicings of the chords or add further tones.
yea, do that
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i figured you would already know about this...MWR wrote:You mind explaining "targeting" or linking to good site about it? I'm not asking for anything to in depth just the basic concept.
anyway, targeting has to do with playing specific tones at specific times. the most common target note is the tonic, because most every other tone resolves to it.
the concept of target notes has to do with the solos relationship to the progression, melody, and other harmonies. for instance, if you are solo in a progression and a G7 comes up, a good not to target would be F because its G's b7. the concept of playing arpeggios is the exact same as target notes.
target notes usually deal with what note you end a phrase on, basically you are "targeting" a certain note to end on
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