Tab sites legal problem

Grachi · Unread post by **Grachi** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:44 am

http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,6 ... _tophead_2

something I found regarding to the situation

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:19 am

"Lost revenue for rights holders is in the millions," said Keiser, "We're not going after fan clubs, but websites that make money."

So as long as Kanter doesn't charge, we should be ok.

CBalvarez · Unread post by **CBalvarez** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:42 pm

No Shit! This is just getting out of hand, like musicians don't make enough money anyway, I highly doubt any group is dependent on their Tab book sales, its just fucking Corporate America trying to make even more money and its disgusting.

Lets just deprive people across the world, one more open door to the gift of music, it really makes me sick.

I think if they are making money off of advertisment and stuff thats what they mean though, And Jail Time that just seems laughable

Oregon41 · Unread post by **Oregon41** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:50 am

CBalvarez wrote:No Shit! This is just getting out of hand, like musicians don't make enough money anyway, I highly doubt any group is dependent on their Tab book sales, its just fucking Corporate America trying to make even more money and its disgusting.

Lets just deprive people across the world, one more open door to the gift of music, it really makes me sick.

I think if they are making money off of advertisment and stuff thats what they mean though, And Jail Time that just seems laughable

Yeah, I can just imagine that shit:
"Hey, so how'd you end up in here?"
"I bought a CD, figured out how to play the songs by ear, and typed it up on Wordpad."
".....so, did you like write the entire score or something?"
"No, it was just a bunch of hyphens and numbers."

Ryeguy · Unread post by **Ryeguy** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:49 pm

yeah its fucking stupid.. im going insane without mxtabs...

Grachi · Unread post by **Grachi** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:52 pm

i don't think this will go very far... like they said they are trying to go after sites making a profit.

If it does, I will be pissed if i have to go buy those shitty tab books they sell at my local guitar place :evil:

el Jammo · Unread post by **el Jammo** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:14 pm

Speenis wrote: actually, unless i'm mistaken, this is technically illegal already

guy wrote: I'm pretty sure its legal to play any song you want as long as you don't claim it as your own. If you play it live and its not recorded in any way, there is no problem.

actually club/bar owners have to pay some bogus musician's association a monthly fee to allow music at their place that supposedly gives royalties to songwriters who are covered.

My dad was in the music buisness for a long time and said they were the biggest buncy of assholes ever.

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:32 pm

i've been through this with another site. as long as we don't charge for membership we'll be ok.

i think posting lyrics could be a problem though.

guitardmb · Unread post by **guitardmb** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:18 pm

How would posting lyrics be a problem? If they didnt want you to know the lyrics they wouldn't release the music at all.

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:43 pm

well it was a problem on a few other sites.

apparently since you can't really copyright a chord progression then it's ok to post the tabs. but you can copyright the lyrics and they have to be used with permission. i'm not saying that this site has a problem because i don't know how kanter went about it but i know of a few sites that had to completely remove the lyrics to the songs.

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:34 pm

elijah77jc wrote:well it was a problem on a few other sites.

apparently since you can't really copyright a chord progression then it's ok to post the tabs. but you can copyright the lyrics and they have to be used with permission. i'm not saying that this site has a problem because i don't know how kanter went about it but i know of a few sites that had to completely remove the lyrics to the songs.

soon lawyers will be hanging out in bars, and drilling people with fines for covering songs :roll:

sozekizer · Unread post by **sozekizer** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:00 pm

charliemike wrote:OLGA was shutdown a while ago

when is the last time you visited olga? they're certainly not shut down; neither is harmony-central. If you notice all the disclaimers on all their tabs, those are due to the suits years ago regarding tablature.

wayward_blue · Unread post by **wayward_blue** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:25 pm

el Jammo wrote:
Speenis wrote: actually, unless i'm mistaken, this is technically illegal already

guy wrote: I'm pretty sure its legal to play any song you want as long as you don't claim it as your own. If you play it live and its not recorded in any way, there is no problem.
actually club/bar owners have to pay some bogus musician's association a monthly fee to allow music at their place that supposedly gives royalties to songwriters who are covered.

My dad was in the music buisness for a long time and said they were the biggest buncy of assholes ever.

I heard those guys are worse than the Mafia! One local bar here gets their ass handed to them buy the association and most of the music that is played there is original! Even all the music in the Juke box is local bands but since ocassionally a cover is played they have to shell out some large sum of money. Its bad enough its hard to keep a bar above ground especially when you have assholes trying to collect money for this shit. :evil:

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