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Unread post by 417roylat » Mon May 30, 2005 12:14 am

Well read the whole thing before commenting. Youre right words are words, and i wouldnt expect him to give a shit about anything i write. The reason of the message was to provide explanation for me inquiring about traces sexuality. It is none of my business, nor do i care. However, like i wrote in my post, songwriters get ideas, and write based upon personal experiences and their respective perspectives on the world we live in. All im saying is that a gay man may have different ideas, views, and opinions than a straight man, or he may not. I provided examples including elliot smith and his depression. His sadness directly affected his lyrics, songs, melodies. He was a great songwriter. If he was happy, would he have written some of those great dark songs that he known for? That is my point. The Fatjack stuff i wrote was just to respond to his immaturity, and his comments about me. THat is it. I really enjoy traces music, and was curious to how he came to be the songwriter he is. I mean, all i asked was if it was known if he was gay or not, because, whether u like it or not, that may or may not influence his stlye, and songs. Im done.

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Unread post by StarSlight » Mon May 30, 2005 8:52 am

E-mail Trace and ask him yourself.

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Unread post by i am sam2 » Mon May 30, 2005 11:10 am

417roylat wrote:Well read the whole thing before commenting. Youre right words are words, and i wouldnt expect him to give a shit about anything i write. The reason of the message was to provide explanation for me inquiring about traces sexuality. It is none of my business, nor do i care. However, like i wrote in my post, songwriters get ideas, and write based upon personal experiences and their respective perspectives on the world we live in. All im saying is that a gay man may have different ideas, views, and opinions than a straight man, or he may not. I provided examples including elliot smith and his depression. His sadness directly affected his lyrics, songs, melodies. He was a great songwriter. If he was happy, would he have written some of those great dark songs that he known for? That is my point. The Fatjack stuff i wrote was just to respond to his immaturity, and his comments about me. THat is it. I really enjoy traces music, and was curious to how he came to be the songwriter he is. I mean, all i asked was if it was known if he was gay or not, because, whether u like it or not, that may or may not influence his stlye, and songs. Im done.

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well sorry to dissapoint you, but i had read the whole post before i sent mine, i just started out with that because when i wrote the first sentence, i hadnt read the whole post. i understood what you were saying in the post about how being gay would change his perspective/songwriting, and i agree.

i was responding to your bashing of fatjack and whatnot because it seemed like you were overreacting to fatjack posting, in my opinion, joke responses bbatsell....
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Unread post by fatjack » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:13 am

417roylat wrote:It doesnt matter, but i was just asking a fucking question. I think he is a phenomenal guitarist and have tons of respect for the man. I was just curious if he was gay or not, since me, and everyother person that has seen the dvd, asked the same question w/in a min of hearing him talk.

Secondly, its pretty sad that there are some pretty immature muppets that float around this dave site, who first flame me for asking if he was gay, then proceed to write untrue statements about my sexuality. I mean, how can you flame me for asking a question about Trace, then finish your post by bashing me and saying something that is extremley offensive, and fuckin immature. FATJACK, who the fuck do you think you are. Oh wait, i know, just another child who cannot have a mature converstation. Probably one of those kids who still look in anatomy books and giggle at the drawings of the female body. This is just an assumption. You made one about me. My opinion of you - an idiotic, immature, secondgrader, who basically needs to drop of the face of the planet.

I wasnt trying to start a war, nor do i really care if trace is gay or not. After watching his dvd, it seemed like he might be. I was just curious, since life experiences, and preferences are major points for songwriters. Rufus Rainwright happens to be on of my fave songwriters. He is gay, and thus, some of his lyrics and songs deal with views and perspectives a gay man may have in this world. Dave losing his sis, also is something that molded daves ideas, perceptions, and his overall character as a person- that too is another direct influence on personal life and experiences that songwriters use for inspiration. Another example, Elliot Smith was very depressed and drug addicted. His songs were mostly very meloncholy. Had he not been a depressed drug addict, he may not have been as good a songwriter.

This is why i was asking the question about Trace. It doesnt matter at all. I will always support him and listen to his music. Sexuality does have an effect on ones perceptions and thus, ones songwriting.

Fuck off and die Fatjack.

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Unread post by Kahn » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:34 pm

fatjack wrote:boohoohoo :cry:

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bwahaahahaha :lol: :lol:

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:07 pm

lol, well played fatty, well played...
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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:18 pm

please don't turn this site into ufck... stop bitching and get back on topic, this is one of the few sites i enjoy because it is not a constant bitching fest, please don't ruin it...

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Unread post by Machtimus » Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:02 pm

mattinbeloit wrote:please don't turn this site into ufck... stop bitching and get back on topic, this is one of the few sites i enjoy because it is not a constant bitching fest, please don't ruin it...
you should stop bitching yourself then...

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Unread post by fatjack » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:42 pm

Machtimus wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:please don't turn this site into ufck... stop bitching and get back on topic, this is one of the few sites i enjoy because it is not a constant bitching fest, please don't ruin it...
you should stop bitching yourself then...
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Unread post by 417roylat » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:09 pm

That may be the funniest thing i have ever seen. How long did it take you to figure it out, and who helped. Shit dude, im never posting again. That was awesome. Sux that dave has so many fans that arent intelligent or mature enough to have a real discussion. But it doesnt really matter. This is a free discussion board, and we are allowed and encouraged to say whatever is on our mind, and i dont have to come here if i dont like it. Great site, but overall, a pretty immature, and musically talentless membership. Whatever. One thing though, if someone asked if dave was gay imagine the responses that would come about...and just to piss off more kids, john mayer is a better guitar player than dave, much better.
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Unread post by 417roylat » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:12 pm

i am sam2 wrote:
417roylat wrote:Well read the whole thing before commenting. Youre right words are words, and i wouldnt expect him to give a shit about anything i write. The reason of the message was to provide explanation for me inquiring about traces sexuality. It is none of my business, nor do i care. However, like i wrote in my post, songwriters get ideas, and write based upon personal experiences and their respective perspectives on the world we live in. All im saying is that a gay man may have different ideas, views, and opinions than a straight man, or he may not. I provided examples including elliot smith and his depression. His sadness directly affected his lyrics, songs, melodies. He was a great songwriter. If he was happy, would he have written some of those great dark songs that he known for? That is my point. The Fatjack stuff i wrote was just to respond to his immaturity, and his comments about me. THat is it. I really enjoy traces music, and was curious to how he came to be the songwriter he is. I mean, all i asked was if it was known if he was gay or not, because, whether u like it or not, that may or may not influence his stlye, and songs. Im done.

tim

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well sorry to dissapoint you, but i had read the whole post before i sent mine, i just started out with that because when i wrote the first sentence, i hadnt read the whole post. i understood what you were saying in the post about how being gay would change his perspective/songwriting, and i agree.

i was responding to your bashing of fatjack and whatnot because it seemed like you were overreacting to fatjack posting, in my opinion, joke responses bbatsell....

Just having fun w words, the same way everyone else does. I hope that no one on these boards take this shit seriously and is hurt by words on a screen. If so, that is the issue.
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Unread post by Machtimus » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:13 pm

417roylat wrote:That may be the funniest thing i have ever seen. How long did it take you to figure it out, and who helped. Shit dude, im never posting again. That was awesome. Sux that dave has so many fans that arent intelligent or mature enough to have a real discussion. But it doesnt really matter. This is a free discussion board, and we are allowed and encouraged to say whatever is on our mind, and i dont have to come here if i dont like it. Great site, but overall, a pretty immature, and musically talentless membership. Whatever. One thing though, if someone asked if dave was gay imagine the responses that would come about...and just to piss off more kids, john mayer is a better guitar player than dave, much better.
yeah, it does SUX doesn't it?

glad you aren't posting anymore, and i'm sure everyone else is.

and who do you think can pee farther? Dave of John Mayer?

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:15 pm

417roylat wrote:That may be the funniest thing i have ever seen. How long did it take you to figure it out, and who helped. Shit dude, im never posting again. That was awesome. Sux that dave has so many fans that arent intelligent or mature enough to have a real discussion. But it doesnt really matter. This is a free discussion board, and we are allowed and encouraged to say whatever is on our mind, and i dont have to come here if i dont like it. Great site, but overall, a pretty immature, and musically talentless membership. Whatever. One thing though, if someone asked if dave was gay imagine the responses that would come about...and just to piss off more kids, john mayer is a better guitar player than dave, much better.
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Unread post by fatjack » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:18 pm

417roylat wrote:That may be the funniest thing i have ever seen. How long did it take you to figure it out, and who helped. Shit dude, im never posting again. That was awesome. Sux that dave has so many fans that arent intelligent or mature enough to have a real discussion. But it doesnt really matter. This is a free discussion board, and we are allowed and encouraged to say whatever is on our mind, and i dont have to come here if i dont like it. Great site, but overall, a pretty immature, and musically talentless membership. Whatever. One thing though, if someone asked if dave was gay imagine the responses that would come about...and just to piss off more kids, john mayer is a better guitar player than dave, much better.
I'm guessing you think that you are pretty clever with that use of sarcasm, kudos.

Musically talentless? You're grasping at straws my friend; that came out of nowhere.

And what would someone asking if dave was gay have anything to do with this? I don't give two shits about Dave OR the fact that you asked if Trace is gay. I was just busting your balls and you just made yourself look stupid for taking me seriously.

And John Mayer is a better guitar player. I don't verbally fellate dave like everyone else here, so your attempt at pissing me off was a pretty poor one.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:20 pm

oh yeah despite my username mayer is better than dave... i made the name when i was uneducated
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