DMB Chordal Analyses

MahlerGrooves · Unread post by **MahlerGrooves** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:47 pm

Tomorrow, I will post the following:

Satellite, Two Step, Ants Marching, and Lie in Our Graves.

Check around 10pm or so.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:21 pm

MahlerGrooves wrote: EDIT: The "comments" have been deleted.

how the hell did that happen?

EDIT: Because I'm the one who added that. --brock

MahlerGrooves · Unread post by **MahlerGrooves** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:57 pm

Satellite (Analysis in key of Ab major)

**NOTE** Since this song is mainly riff based, the intro and verse chords and harmonic functions are implicit only, and the chords for the chorus are taken not from the tab but from the WHOLE BAND playing together. Thank you.

Intro/Verse

Chords: Abadd9 - Db - Cm - Bbm - Db->Db/C

Functions: Iadd9 - IV - iii - ii - IV53->42

"Winter's cold..."

Chords: Ab - Db - Bbm - Eb

Functions: I - IV - ii - V

Transition

Chords: Abadd9 - Db - Cm - *Single notes* Bb-C-Db-Eb-F *end singles*

Functions: Iadd9 - IV - iii - * ii-I64-IV-V-IV6*

"Rest high above..."

Chords: Eb/Bb - Ab - Cm - Db - Db

Functions: V64 - I - iii - IV - IV

MahlerGrooves · Unread post by **MahlerGrooves** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:59 pm

Two Step (Analysis in key of D minor and F major)

**NOTE** This analysis requires two different keys to be used for different sections of the song. The key of each section is indicated in brackets next to the section name. Also, some of the single note slides in this song would require the addition of non-harmonic, chromatic escape tones and appogiaturas in the bass. These tones do not function with the chords and have been left out for the sake of eliminating confusion. If you need these, PM me and I will be happy to email you the full analysis including all non-functioning bass tones. Thank you!

Newer Intro [D minor] (Old intro is simply the first chord of the new intro.)

Chords: Dm - C - Gm

Functions i - VII - iv

Bridge/Fill [D minor]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C -> F5 - Dm

Functions: i - VI5 - III64 -> III5 - i

Verse [F major]

Chords: Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Am - Gm

Functions: vi - IV->V - I - vi - iii - ii - vi - IV->V - I - vi - iii - ii - vi - iii - ii - vi
Chorus [F major]

Chords: F - C - Gm - Bb->Bb/A

Functions: I - V - ii - IV->IV42

"Things we cannot change..." [Modulation from F maj. to D min.]

Chords: F - Bb - Am - Gm (Am chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two.)

Functions: [F major] I - IV - (iii) - [D minor] (v) - iv

Newer Jam [Modulation from D min. to F maj.]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C->F5 - Dm - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 (Bb5 chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two)

Functions: [D minor] i - (VI5) - [F major] (IV5) - I64->I5 - vi - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5

Older jam was just chorus repeated.

EDIT: Fixed this one. Verse was DEFINATELY done in the wrong key. Sorry guys and thanks fatjack!

sk8r · Unread post by **sk8r** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:14 pm

you are a genious!

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:05 pm

MahlerGrooves wrote:Two Step (Analysis in key of D minor and F major)

**NOTE** This analysis requires two different keys to be used for different sections of the song. The key of each section is indicated in brackets next to the section name. Also, some of the single note slides in this song would require the addition of non-harmonic, chromatic escape tones and appogiaturas in the bass. These tones do not function with the chords and have been left out for the sake of eliminating confusion. If you need these, PM me and I will be happy to email you the full analysis including all non-functioning bass tones. Thank you!

Newer Intro [D minor] (Old intro is simply the first chord of the new intro.)

Chords: Dm - C - Gm

Functions i - VII - iv

Bridge/Fill [D minor]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C -> F5 - Dm

Functions: i - VI5 - III64 -> III5 - i

Verse [D minor]

Chords: Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Am - Gm

Functions: i - IV/III->V/III III - i - v - iv - i - IV/III->V/III - III - i - v - iv - i - v - iv

Chorus [F major]

Chords: F - C - Gm - Bb->Bb/A

Functions: I - V - ii - IV->IV42

"Things we cannot change..." [Modulation from F maj. to D min.]

Chords: F - Bb - Am - Gm (Am chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two.)

Functions: [F major] I - IV - (iii) - [D minor] (v) - iv

Newer Jam [Modulation from D min. to F maj.]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C->F5 - Dm - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 (Bb5 chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two)

Functions: [D minor] i - (VI5) - [F major] (IV5) - I64->I5 - vi - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5

Older jam was just chorus repeated.

okay mahler, some SERIOUS flaws in this one

mainly with the chorus, this is definitely NOT in Dm. why? you have a V chord being minor, thats a no no. a dominant chord does not function as a dominant chord if its minor. a V chord will ALWAYS be major, regardless of whether or not the song is in major or minor.

and im leary of some of the other progressions, the intro, definitely has some modulation. a i VII iv? that seems a little strange to me

sk8r · Unread post by **sk8r** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:09 pm

oh no geek fight!!!!

MahlerGrooves · Unread post by **MahlerGrooves** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:10 pm

fatjack wrote:
MahlerGrooves wrote:Two Step (Analysis in key of D minor and F major)

**NOTE** This analysis requires two different keys to be used for different sections of the song. The key of each section is indicated in brackets next to the section name. Also, some of the single note slides in this song would require the addition of non-harmonic, chromatic escape tones and appogiaturas in the bass. These tones do not function with the chords and have been left out for the sake of eliminating confusion. If you need these, PM me and I will be happy to email you the full analysis including all non-functioning bass tones. Thank you!

Newer Intro [D minor] (Old intro is simply the first chord of the new intro.)

Chords: Dm - C - Gm

Functions i - VII - iv

Bridge/Fill [D minor]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C -> F5 - Dm

Functions: i - VI5 - III64 -> III5 - i

Verse [D minor]

Chords: Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Am - Gm

Functions: i - IV/III->V/III III - i - v - iv - i - IV/III->V/III - III - i - v - iv - i - v - iv

Chorus [F major]

Chords: F - C - Gm - Bb->Bb/A

Functions: I - V - ii - IV->IV42

"Things we cannot change..." [Modulation from F maj. to D min.]

Chords: F - Bb - Am - Gm (Am chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two.)

Functions: [F major] I - IV - (iii) - [D minor] (v) - iv

Newer Jam [Modulation from D min. to F maj.]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C->F5 - Dm - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 (Bb5 chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two)

Functions: [D minor] i - (VI5) - [F major] (IV5) - I64->I5 - vi - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5

Older jam was just chorus repeated.
okay mahler, some SERIOUS flaws in this one

mainly with the chorus, this is definitely NOT in Dm. why? you have a V chord being minor, thats a no no. a dominant chord does not function as a dominant chord if its minor. a V chord will ALWAYS be major, regardless of whether or not the song is in major or minor.

and im leary of some of the other progressions, the intro, definitely has some modulation. a i VII iv? that seems a little strange to me

I never had the chorus in D minor. It was always in F. As for the intro, I guess I could do some stuff there, but having never heard the "new intro" I don't know the way each chord sounds in context. As for the verse, I was actually JUST debating changing half of it to F major because of that very thing, and you have just helped me decide! Thanks

MahlerGrooves · Unread post by **MahlerGrooves** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:11 pm

sk8rdude12000 wrote:oh no geek fight!!!!

Inappropriate. I welcome the constructive criticism of educated theorists, but I will stop using energy on this if I keep hearing dumbass comments.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:14 pm

MahlerGrooves wrote:
fatjack wrote:
MahlerGrooves wrote:Two Step (Analysis in key of D minor and F major)

**NOTE** This analysis requires two different keys to be used for different sections of the song. The key of each section is indicated in brackets next to the section name. Also, some of the single note slides in this song would require the addition of non-harmonic, chromatic escape tones and appogiaturas in the bass. These tones do not function with the chords and have been left out for the sake of eliminating confusion. If you need these, PM me and I will be happy to email you the full analysis including all non-functioning bass tones. Thank you!

Newer Intro [D minor] (Old intro is simply the first chord of the new intro.)

Chords: Dm - C - Gm

Functions i - VII - iv

Bridge/Fill [D minor]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C -> F5 - Dm

Functions: i - VI5 - III64 -> III5 - i

Verse [D minor]

Chords: Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Bb->C - F - Dm - Am - Gm - Dm - Am - Gm

Functions: i - IV/III->V/III III - i - v - iv - i - IV/III->V/III - III - i - v - iv - i - v - iv

Chorus [F major]

Chords: F - C - Gm - Bb->Bb/A

Functions: I - V - ii - IV->IV42

"Things we cannot change..." [Modulation from F maj. to D min.]

Chords: F - Bb - Am - Gm (Am chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two.)

Functions: [F major] I - IV - (iii) - [D minor] (v) - iv

Newer Jam [Modulation from D min. to F maj.]

Chords: Dm - Bb5 - F5/C->F5 - Dm - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 - Csus4/E - F5 (Bb5 chord is analysed in BOTH KEYS as a pivot chord between the two)

Functions: [D minor] i - (VI5) - [F major] (IV5) - I64->I5 - vi - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5 - V6sus4 - I5

Older jam was just chorus repeated.
okay mahler, some SERIOUS flaws in this one

mainly with the chorus, this is definitely NOT in Dm. why? you have a V chord being minor, thats a no no. a dominant chord does not function as a dominant chord if its minor. a V chord will ALWAYS be major, regardless of whether or not the song is in major or minor.

and im leary of some of the other progressions, the intro, definitely has some modulation. a i VII iv? that seems a little strange to me
I never had the chorus in D minor. It was always in F. As for the intro, I guess I could do some stuff there, but having never heard the "new intro" I don't know the way each chord sounds in context. As for the verse, I was actually JUST debating changing half of it to F major because of that very thing, and you have just helped me decide! Thanks

whoops, i meant the verse

MahlerGrooves · Unread post by **MahlerGrooves** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:29 pm

Fixed the Two Step one. Thanks fatjack! I occasionaly have giant brain farts like that.

sk8r · Unread post by **sk8r** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:43 pm

MahlerGrooves wrote:
sk8rdude12000 wrote:oh no geek fight!!!!
Inappropriate. I welcome the constructive criticism of educated theorists, but I will stop using energy on this if I keep hearing dumbass comments.

HA come on buddy i meant no harm from it. You know i have alot of respect for u simply on the fact you are extremely musically educated. If you cant take the joke i wont make it though becuas ei dont wanna piss you off. i guess you could just say im jealous cause i have no idea what this all means

MahlerGrooves · Unread post by **MahlerGrooves** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:54 pm

sk8rdude12000 wrote:
MahlerGrooves wrote:
sk8rdude12000 wrote:oh no geek fight!!!!
Inappropriate. I welcome the constructive criticism of educated theorists, but I will stop using energy on this if I keep hearing dumbass comments.
HA come on buddy i meant no harm from it. You know i have alot of respect for u simply on the fact you are extremely musically educated. If you cant take the joke i wont make it though becuas ei dont wanna piss you off. i guess you could just say im jealous cause i have no idea what this all means

It's ok. I just get a little sensitive about being called a geek due to some bad HighSchool years. I don't mind the joke, but I just get a little wierd around that word. No harm done. We cool 8) And you could learn it...just get some books and start reading!

mrjones · Unread post by **mrjones** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:16 am

what books?

mlb1399 · Unread post by **mlb1399** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:35 am

sk8rdude12000 wrote:
MahlerGrooves wrote:
sk8rdude12000 wrote:oh no geek fight!!!!
Inappropriate. I welcome the constructive criticism of educated theorists, but I will stop using energy on this if I keep hearing dumbass comments.
HA come on buddy i meant no harm from it. You know i have alot of respect for u simply on the fact you are extremely musically educated. If you cant take the joke i wont make it though becuas ei dont wanna piss you off. i guess you could just say im jealous cause i have no idea what this all means

I think he just wants to keep this thread fairly serious. I couldn't agree more. MWR, fatjack, and Mahler are extremely knowledgeable in music theory. No harm done.

Mahler, we definitely appreciate the amount of time you have put into this. Even though, some of this is over my head. If people in high school called you a geek, then screw them. You are well respected here and your music background has enabled you to develop into a great musician, which chicks love. You are probably getting more love from the women now then the idiots who made fun of you in school. Keep up the great work!

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