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Unread post by Beauford33 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:17 pm

shit, when I say arrogant I mean cocky..and I love cocky. Sure, Id be "cushed" by a cocky idiol if I were a littel pussy and let that hurt me.
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Unread post by fatjack » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:19 pm

jellyfish wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:you're just being an idiot tonight. I honeslty dont know how arrogance can be a bad thing..of course unless the person sucked ass. But if you're cocky, but can back it up (josh can) then I think it is awsome.
Well let me fucking tell you why arrogance can be a bad thing.

Take your favorite performer, Go see him Live, Meet him after the show, spend an hour with him, find out that he is a complete arrogant asshole.

There...Your idol is now dead to you.
that's your damn fault for idolizing someone. you should still appreciate an artist for his music regardless of his or her personality.

miles davis was a very callous person and he hated audiences, does that make him any less of a genious

and im really gonna need an explanation of why you think im arrogant or im going to have regard everything you say from now on as complete fallacy. so far all you have done is attack me without explaining yourself

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Unread post by jellyfish » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:21 pm

Beauford33 wrote:shit, when I say arrogant I mean cocky..and I love cocky. Sure, Id be "cushed" by a cocky idiol if I were a littel pussy and let that hurt me.
I suppose your calling me a pussy? Anyway, IM not interested in arguing this point because Im sure I would win. Trust me, no one likes dickheads.

And IM really not interested in starting a fight with you. For one thing, IM older and can easily outwit you.(is that cocky enough) and secondly, I don't like arguing with somebody I will never meet. I didn't wan't to argue with FatJack but rather tell him to chill. Have a good night.

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:23 pm

yea, cocky is good..but like I said, it is only honorable if you can back it up.
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Unread post by fatjack » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:29 pm

jellyfish wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:shit, when I say arrogant I mean cocky..and I love cocky. Sure, Id be "cushed" by a cocky idiol if I were a littel pussy and let that hurt me.
I suppose your calling me a pussy? Anyway, IM not interested in arguing this point because Im sure I would win. Trust me, no one likes dickheads.

And IM really not interested in starting a fight with you. For one thing, IM older and can easily outwit you.(is that cocky enough) and secondly, I don't like arguing with somebody I will never meet. I didn't wan't to argue with FatJack but rather tell him to chill. Have a good night.
im totally chill, why dont you want to have a simple little discussion. you obviously have a very strong opinion and are very passionate about it. and, usually, when people have strong opinions, they have examples/sources/evidence that supports that opinion. thats all im looking for

and every part of that post was arrogant, so rather than call you a pussy, i will call you a hypocrite

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Unread post by jellyfish » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:29 pm

Beauford33 wrote:yea, cocky is good..but like I said, it is only honorable if you can back it up.
NO, it's not good. Nobody likes a cocky person. (unless you are 7)

Take Terrell Owens. Everybody agrees he is a great football player but they hate him for the fact that he acts like an asshole when he scores a touchdown. No need for showboating...we get the point.

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Unread post by fatjack » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:31 pm

jellyfish wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:yea, cocky is good..but like I said, it is only honorable if you can back it up.
NO, it's not good. Nobody likes a cocky person. (unless you are 7)

Take Terrell Owens. Everybody agrees he is a great football player but they hate him for the fact that he acts like an asshole when he scores a touchdown. No need for showboating...we get the point.
that was a MASSIVE generalization. most people that i know of that have an opinion about TO usually have a favorable one.

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Unread post by jellyfish » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:32 pm

fatjack wrote:
jellyfish wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:you're just being an idiot tonight. I honeslty dont know how arrogance can be a bad thing..of course unless the person sucked ass. But if you're cocky, but can back it up (josh can) then I think it is awsome.
Well let me fucking tell you why arrogance can be a bad thing.

Take your favorite performer, Go see him Live, Meet him after the show, spend an hour with him, find out that he is a complete arrogant asshole.

There...Your idol is now dead to you.
that's your damn fault for idolizing someone. you should still appreciate an artist for his music regardless of his or her personality.

miles davis was a very callous person and he hated audiences, does that make him any less of a genious

and im really gonna need an explanation of why you think im arrogant or im going to have regard everything you say from now on as complete fallacy. so far all you have done is attack me without explaining yourself
Yes, it does make him less of a genious. It shows that he can only handle one aspect of his life with dignity. Being a performer requires you to handle yourself onstage & off. And do you really want me to go and find all of you arrogant rants in the past 2 weeks. Give me time and I will.

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:33 pm

Yea, Patrick Roy was one cocky bastard. You know what, people here love him. I for one think of him as one of my heros. I have met him. He is a nice guy, but you know he knows "Im awsome". He is idolized around here and up in Canada.

and people love TO. It is the 40 year olds with sticks up their asses that have a problem with him.
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Unread post by fatjack » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:37 pm

jellyfish wrote:Yes, it does make him less of a genious. It shows that he can only handle one aspect of his life with dignity. Being a performer requires you to handle yourself onstage & off. And do you really want me to go and find all of you arrogant rants in the past 2 weeks. Give me time and I will.
yes, i most certainly would.

and i dont see how that makes miles davis less of a musical genious... so what if he was an ass? there a plenty of great musicians past and present that were jackasses

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:39 pm

and what does handling ones self off the stage have anything to do with a musical gneious?
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Unread post by jellyfish » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:46 pm

Beauford33 wrote:and what does handling ones self off the stage have anything to do with a musical gneious?
Well, this would require some thought & time. I dont have either right now. But, I do know you're approximately 16 & don't have time to argue with somebody who is not as experienced in this world as I am.

There ya go... Is that what you want.

BTW, Your not getting under my skin. I've got 2 people over my shoulder laughing at you right now. You're just a young buck who needs to grow.

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Unread post by fatjack » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:49 pm

jellyfish wrote: Well, this would require some thought & time. I dont have either right now. But, I do know you're approximately 16 & don't have time to argue with somebody who is not as experienced in this world as I am.

BTW, Your not getting under my skin. I've got 2 people over my shoulder laughing at you right now. You're just a young buck who needs to grow.
how incredibly... what's the word im looking for... arrogant?

and you still haven't explained why im arrogant...

and if you have so little time, why do you keep posting after you've said "goodnight" on several occasions?

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:50 pm

jellyfish wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:and what does handling ones self off the stage have anything to do with a musical gneious?
Well, this would require some thought & time. I dont have either right now. But, I do know you're approximately 16 & don't have time to argue with somebody who is not as experienced in this world as I am.

There ya go... Is that what you want.

BTW, Your not getting under my skin. I've got 2 people over my shoulder laughing at you right now. You're just a young buck who needs to grow.
Im 18, shows your ignorance. And like I said, you have to prove yourself in order for your cockiness not to turn into embarassment.

You're apart of this argument too, so it makes you know better then me and josh. So your friends shouldnt hold the double standard and laugh at you too
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Unread post by mangold » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:50 pm

jellyfish wrote:
fatjack wrote:
jellyfish wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:you're just being an idiot tonight. I honeslty dont know how arrogance can be a bad thing..of course unless the person sucked ass. But if you're cocky, but can back it up (josh can) then I think it is awsome.
Well let me fucking tell you why arrogance can be a bad thing.

Take your favorite performer, Go see him Live, Meet him after the show, spend an hour with him, find out that he is a complete arrogant asshole.

There...Your idol is now dead to you.
that's your damn fault for idolizing someone. you should still appreciate an artist for his music regardless of his or her personality.

miles davis was a very callous person and he hated audiences, does that make him any less of a genious

and im really gonna need an explanation of why you think im arrogant or im going to have regard everything you say from now on as complete fallacy. so far all you have done is attack me without explaining yourself
Yes, it does make him less of a genious. It shows that he can only handle one aspect of his life with dignity. Being a performer requires you to handle yourself onstage & off. And do you really want me to go and find all of you arrogant rants in the past 2 weeks. Give me time and I will.
reagarding the TO analogy, i live in philly and i am a big football fan, and while i root for the eagles im not one of these blind ardent fans. as such i can give an unbiased opinion on TO. personally ive always liked him. even before he came to philly. but there were many people around here that HATED him when he was in sanfran and said that his antics detracted from the game and made him a worse player. now those same people are praising him saying that he brings much needed attention to football (because football needs attention :roll: ) people are idiots.

Regarding your argument, jelly: i was a smidgen with you in the beginning, then you spun off into a matrix of insults, none of which were prudent or backed. you lose. fatjack: you win. congrats. you are not cocky because you back it up. that is all.

edit: you really 16 fatjack?
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