Do u always count timing out?

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:24 pm

I'm at the point where I can pretty much figure out whatever I need by ear. there are still occasions where i'll just get frustrated and use a tab (like my guitar playing, i'm still a beginner at that) but with my bass playing i'm at the level where i know enough what i'm doing and how songs are structured to figure it out on my own. the first thing i click on here is ndmb. oh well

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:29 pm

i like tictacs wrote:I'm at the point where I can pretty much figure out whatever I need by ear. there are still occasions where i'll just get frustrated and use a tab (like my guitar playing, i'm still a beginner at that) but with my bass playing i'm at the level where i know enough what i'm doing and how songs are structured to figure it out on my own. the first thing i click on here is ndmb. oh well

this stuff frusterates me just because it frightens me because slowly, but surley, the jusicianship is being sucked out of music because people are too lazy to learn it the RIGHT way.

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:30 pm

because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:30 pm

i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.

just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:32 pm

gotcha

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:07 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.
just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting

Yeah, things like counting, writing music, etc. are very important...but many ppl concentrate on those things, forgetting that music is FEELING first of all...

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:46 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.
just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting
Yeah, things like counting, writing music, etc. are very important...but many ppl concentrate on those things, forgetting that music is FEELING first of all...

yea, it is. but its important to find the most efficient way to express your feelings. You can be pissed, pick up a guitar with little knowledge and play something "okay". learn theory and the essentials and have a feeling and express that on a guitar with the knowledge, you will be amazing.

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:51 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.
just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting
Yeah, things like counting, writing music, etc. are very important...but many ppl concentrate on those things, forgetting that music is FEELING first of all...
yea, it is. but its important to find the most efficient way to express your feelings. You can be pissed, pick up a guitar with little knowledge and play something "okay". learn theory and the essentials and have a feeling and express that on a guitar with the knowledge, you will be amazing.

I dont think you really need to learn theory and essentials...It's important to find your way of playing, and this could even be opposite to the theory...

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:07 pm

i dont care who you are, you can't play without keeping a steady beat, which comes from a good foundation of theory.

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:10 pm

i like tictacs wrote:i dont care who you are, you can't play without keeping a steady beat, which comes from a good foundation of theory.

I'm saying that u can even create your own theory...and it comes above all from your feeling...

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:33 pm

i tappa my foot, shmlanga flanga!

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:37 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.
just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting
Yeah, things like counting, writing music, etc. are very important...but many ppl concentrate on those things, forgetting that music is FEELING first of all...
yea, it is. but its important to find the most efficient way to express your feelings. You can be pissed, pick up a guitar with little knowledge and play something "okay". learn theory and the essentials and have a feeling and express that on a guitar with the knowledge, you will be amazing.
I dont think you really need to learn theory and essentials...It's important to find your way of playing, and this could even be opposite to the theory...

okay, Id like you to find some that knows theory and essentials, and find someone that doesnt (not too hard around these parts) and have them play something out of feeling. I will bet an incredible amount that the person with the knowledge of theory will sound like god next to the other person. Im all for "feeling", but you should understand something so you can express yourself the best way.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:58 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.
just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting
Yeah, things like counting, writing music, etc. are very important...but many ppl concentrate on those things, forgetting that music is FEELING first of all...
yea, it is. but its important to find the most efficient way to express your feelings. You can be pissed, pick up a guitar with little knowledge and play something "okay". learn theory and the essentials and have a feeling and express that on a guitar with the knowledge, you will be amazing.
I dont think you really need to learn theory and essentials...It's important to find your way of playing, and this could even be opposite to the theory...

how can you have something that is the opposite of theory? do you even know what music theory is?

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:02 pm

yea opposite of theory=ignorant guitarist that deams of making it big, but never bothers to look at something other then tabs.

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:54 am

Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.
just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting
Yeah, things like counting, writing music, etc. are very important...but many ppl concentrate on those things, forgetting that music is FEELING first of all...
yea, it is. but its important to find the most efficient way to express your feelings. You can be pissed, pick up a guitar with little knowledge and play something "okay". learn theory and the essentials and have a feeling and express that on a guitar with the knowledge, you will be amazing.
I dont think you really need to learn theory and essentials...It's important to find your way of playing, and this could even be opposite to the theory...
okay, Id like you to find some that knows theory and essentials, and find someone that doesnt (not too hard around these parts) and have them play something out of feeling. I will bet an incredible amount that the person with the knowledge of theory will sound like god next to the other person. Im all for "feeling", but you should understand something so you can express yourself the best way.

It comes from the fact that most times ppl that know theory and essentials have been playing more than ppl dont know that stuff...

Beauford33 wrote:yea opposite of theory=ignorant guitarist that deams of making it big, but never bothers to look at something other then tabs.

I meant that u dont need to know theory to play...u just need to know some scales and u can even create your own stuff...
The example are The Beatles...they sucked in playing and they didnt know much theory...but they create something new...and it was VERY GOOD...

Anyway, I'm for theory too...I have been studying classical music (not very much...but i did and i got the essentials! :wink:

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