tim reynolds question

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:02 am

MWR wrote:
have fun not developing as a guitarist
I'm going to keep this cordial because I like these boards and the people on them. I must state a few things though:
Don't make assumptions on my ability to develop as a guitarist. You now little of me or my ability. Your young so I understand your often pompous attitude and can overlook it most of the time. There are several people on these boards(your one of them) who's musicianship I respect and admire. Even though I don't have the means to prove it, I can assure you that when it comes to the guitar I'm your peer not some neophyte.
That being said I will once again reiterate my point as no one here seems to be able to grasp it. You can't learn the type of mastery that Tim has on the guitar no more that you can learn how to play the cello like Yo Yo Ma or write songs like the Beatles or Bob Dylan. These are people with an extraordinary ability that you don't come across on a daily basis. If what these people do could simply be learned everyone who had enough time could be a virtuoso. This is obviously not the case and that was all I was trying to say.

let me start out by saying that i was in no way trying to knock your ability as a guitarist

everyone starts somewhere, even Tim Reynolds and Yo Yo Ma. do you think that when carter Beauford heard Buddy Rich for the first time he thought man i'll never be the good? of course not, he didn't see Rich's skill as something that he could never attain, he saw it as a goal to work towards. he practiced his ass off and today he his probably better than Rich ever was.

seeing anything as an unattainable goal is the most self-defeating thing anyone could ever do. so dont claim that no one could ever attain the level that Tim Reynolds has risen to, because i can guarantee you that some will (if they haven't already). yes, some people are born with a gift, and others aren't. motivation is all that matters.

and please dont pull that ageist bullshit with me, its my biggest pet peeve.

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:13 am

I apologise for the comment on your age. I was just a little flustered.
By no means do I think that being as good or better as Tim is unattainable. I just didn't want his talent to be short changed. Motivation is the ultimate factor in how good someone is but there are a lot of people who put in countless hours and don't progress beyond a certain point. I would like to hear a closing statement and then we can put this one to bed.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:11 am

MWR wrote:I apologise for the comment on your age. I was just a little flustered.
By no means do I think that being as good or better as Tim is unattainable. I just didn't want his talent to be short changed. Motivation is the ultimate factor in how good someone is but there are a lot of people who put in countless hours and don't progress beyond a certain point. I would like to hear a closing statement and then we can put this one to bed.

i agree with you there MWR, there are many guitarists out there who dont know HOW to advance.

its really a combo of gift and motivation, but by saying that NO ONE could ever reach him, is just discouraging everyone that plays

and i definitely wasn't underestimating tim's skill, he is indeed awesome

guitargod · Unread post by **guitargod** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:05 pm

well then explain this fact, if what you say is true, no one can be a virtuoso just by practice, and they have to have extroidanary talent. well, what about those ppl who have practiced so much that they know every single solo by tim, or every single piece by yo yo ma, or every single song by dylan or the beatles. i think those ppl could one day become the next "virtuosos" as you so put it yourself. if ne body sat down for hours at a time. i guarantee you could be playing like tim, i have done it before. its not hard, u just master that technique, and its not so much tims technique, cuz im sure he had influence from different ppl, and you can tell that in his playing. i will just stand by my point and say that you CAN reach a certain "virtuoso" level ,as you call it, by practicing a whole hell of a lot. thats just my opinion. thanks for letting me share it on here. and no hard feelings to those of you with different opinions. i just like to stick with mine a lot.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:07 pm

guitargod wrote:well then explain this fact, if what you say is true, no one can be a virtuoso just by practice, and they have to have extroidanary talent. well, what about those ppl who have practiced so much that they know every single solo by tim, or every single piece by yo yo ma, or every single song by dylan or the beatles. i think those ppl could one day become the next "virtuosos" as you so put it yourself. if ne body sat down for hours at a time. i guarantee you could be playing like tim, i have done it before. its not hard, u just master that technique, and its not so much tims technique, cuz im sure he had influence from different ppl, and you can tell that in his playing. i will just stand by my point and say that you CAN reach a certain "virtuoso" level ,as you call it, by practicing a whole hell of a lot. thats just my opinion. thanks for letting me share it on here. and no hard feelings to those of you with different opinions. i just like to stick with mine a lot.

exactly, anyone, with enough practice can play stuff like tim does. but the ral difference is in the fact that those people are considered virtuosos because they wrote that material. originality is what separates geniuses from copycats

guitargod · Unread post by **guitargod** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:09 pm

yeah i was gonna type in that fact also.. but my poor little fingers were getting tired

haha

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:13 pm

guitargod wrote:yeah i was gonna type in that fact also.. but my poor little fingers were getting tired

haha

i figured a guitar god would be stronger in the fingers

guitargod · Unread post by **guitargod** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:14 pm

i can stroke the neck and finger it gently for days at a time, i just cant type for shit. haha

JoeGamo05 · Unread post by **JoeGamo05** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:59 pm

well tim does have 32 years of experience so of course he wasn't at the point he was now 10 years ago... he's game is all about improv and thats what makes him so damn great because he's always changing it.... only advice i cang ive is practice and expand your knowledge of music likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tim he's played satir and wasi nto eastern music for awhile which you'll find in his songs then he played bass i think for awhile and theres the bassslaps but perfect practice makes perfect!!

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