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Unread post by Teego Time » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:06 pm

Ask any talented guitar player and they'll all tell you that shredding and playing fast are only half the equation. In fact, I argue that being able to play slowly, but making it sound as intriguing as a fast song is much tough.

And being able to play songs in crazy time signatures, with timing changes. Also some songs utilize different techniques. I mean, christ, look at Justin King. Some of his songs are nuts, but I bet his guitar ability is still less than Tommy Emmanuel.
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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:55 pm

Teego Time wrote:Ask any talented guitar player and they'll all tell you that shredding and playing fast are only half the equation. In fact, I argue that being able to play slowly, but making it sound as intriguing as a fast song is much tough.

And being able to play songs in crazy time signatures, with timing changes. Also some songs utilize different techniques. I mean, christ, look at Justin King. Some of his songs are nuts, but I bet his guitar ability is still less than Tommy Emmanuel.
I agree, a lot of ppl. bash Justin King and others, but their stuff sounds good to me, and I'll take that any day and give them more respect then someone that is faster and technically better.
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:23 pm

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Unread post by brian_ok » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:26 pm

wkpggrvn2001 wrote:stream
If someone can play that entire song as fast and clear as Tim, they have my respect. Not that it isn't overrated though.
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Unread post by Teego Time » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:09 pm

mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:Ask any talented guitar player and they'll all tell you that shredding and playing fast are only half the equation. In fact, I argue that being able to play slowly, but making it sound as intriguing as a fast song is much tough.

And being able to play songs in crazy time signatures, with timing changes. Also some songs utilize different techniques. I mean, christ, look at Justin King. Some of his songs are nuts, but I bet his guitar ability is still less than Tommy Emmanuel.
I agree, a lot of ppl. bash Justin King and others, but their stuff sounds good to me, and I'll take that any day and give them more respect then someone that is faster and technically better.
I like Justin King (actually he was my hero at one point), but some of his instrumental songs need a bit more central melody for me. That's more of an opinion though.
Kahn » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:56 pm
the vaginal fluid they are secreting is the same composition of urine minus the uric acid and phosphorous. i learned that in 11th grade anatomy. btw, sometimes it does have a FAINT smell of Pizzle.

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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:59 pm

Teego Time wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:Ask any talented guitar player and they'll all tell you that shredding and playing fast are only half the equation. In fact, I argue that being able to play slowly, but making it sound as intriguing as a fast song is much tough.

And being able to play songs in crazy time signatures, with timing changes. Also some songs utilize different techniques. I mean, christ, look at Justin King. Some of his songs are nuts, but I bet his guitar ability is still less than Tommy Emmanuel.
I agree, a lot of ppl. bash Justin King and others, but their stuff sounds good to me, and I'll take that any day and give them more respect then someone that is faster and technically better.
I like Justin King (actually he was my hero at one point), but some of his instrumental songs need a bit more central melody for me. That's more of an opinion though.
I think he likes it like that. A lot of his stuff seems to be like that, it's just him.
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Unread post by p1trick_82 » Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:17 am

micheal romeo is pretty crazy too...most symphony x songs change the timing all the time
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Unread post by Teego Time » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:57 am

mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:Ask any talented guitar player and they'll all tell you that shredding and playing fast are only half the equation. In fact, I argue that being able to play slowly, but making it sound as intriguing as a fast song is much tough.

And being able to play songs in crazy time signatures, with timing changes. Also some songs utilize different techniques. I mean, christ, look at Justin King. Some of his songs are nuts, but I bet his guitar ability is still less than Tommy Emmanuel.
I agree, a lot of ppl. bash Justin King and others, but their stuff sounds good to me, and I'll take that any day and give them more respect then someone that is faster and technically better.
I like Justin King (actually he was my hero at one point), but some of his instrumental songs need a bit more central melody for me. That's more of an opinion though.
I think he likes it like that. A lot of his stuff seems to be like that, it's just him.
Hah, it reminds me of my own style of playing.

Personally I just think he has ADD as a guitar player. He's so good, that he just gets bored of what he's doing really fast.

On the flyp syde. He's a really nice guy too. I'm fucking bummed that I didnt get to see him this year. =\
Kahn » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:56 pm
the vaginal fluid they are secreting is the same composition of urine minus the uric acid and phosphorous. i learned that in 11th grade anatomy. btw, sometimes it does have a FAINT smell of Pizzle.

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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:13 pm

Teego Time wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:Ask any talented guitar player and they'll all tell you that shredding and playing fast are only half the equation. In fact, I argue that being able to play slowly, but making it sound as intriguing as a fast song is much tough.

And being able to play songs in crazy time signatures, with timing changes. Also some songs utilize different techniques. I mean, christ, look at Justin King. Some of his songs are nuts, but I bet his guitar ability is still less than Tommy Emmanuel.
I agree, a lot of ppl. bash Justin King and others, but their stuff sounds good to me, and I'll take that any day and give them more respect then someone that is faster and technically better.
I like Justin King (actually he was my hero at one point), but some of his instrumental songs need a bit more central melody for me. That's more of an opinion though.
I think he likes it like that. A lot of his stuff seems to be like that, it's just him.
Hah, it reminds me of my own style of playing.

Personally I just think he has ADD as a guitar player. He's so good, that he just gets bored of what he's doing really fast.

On the flyp syde. He's a really nice guy too. I'm fucking bummed that I didnt get to see him this year. =\
lol the next time i fuck up playing something I'll just say it's guitar ADD. It seems like Tim Reynolds does that too, especially when he does that after the goldrush cover. He'll get into it and it will be nice and then all of a sudden he breaks out into a few scales and then will go back to it. Totally random but cool.
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Unread post by Jester29 » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:06 pm

I think some pieces from Tommy Emmanuel would be great to be able to play. I've nailed down a few (Angelina, Endless Road, Green Thumb). Some of his independent bassline fingerpicking is amazing, plus the sense of melody that's more than just shredding...

FWIW, I *did* learn how to play Cliffs of Dover. It took a lot of practice for a long time. I'm more impressed with a solo acoustic piece rather than a 'lead part' over bass/drums. If you can create a FULL song arrangement on solo guitar, you're the man.

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Unread post by mangold » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:33 pm

Jack_M.D. wrote:
mlb1399 wrote:If you can play Stream, Neon, the solo to Stairway then you get my respect.
I second Neon.

I consider myself pretty ok and I've been working on that song for 2 years now and still no luck.
neon is nothing if you can slap and pop. its just different styles.

thats why you cant really answer this question. theres a ton of spanish fingerpicking shit i could never play, but i can bust out neon and ive taken time to learn alot of wooten stuff on guitar.
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Unread post by MarchOfTheRollyPollyCane » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:31 pm

mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:
mattinbeloit wrote:
Teego Time wrote:Ask any talented guitar player and they'll all tell you that shredding and playing fast are only half the equation. In fact, I argue that being able to play slowly, but making it sound as intriguing as a fast song is much tough.

And being able to play songs in crazy time signatures, with timing changes. Also some songs utilize different techniques. I mean, christ, look at Justin King. Some of his songs are nuts, but I bet his guitar ability is still less than Tommy Emmanuel.
I agree, a lot of ppl. bash Justin King and others, but their stuff sounds good to me, and I'll take that any day and give them more respect then someone that is faster and technically better.
I like Justin King (actually he was my hero at one point), but some of his instrumental songs need a bit more central melody for me. That's more of an opinion though.
I think he likes it like that. A lot of his stuff seems to be like that, it's just him.
Hah, it reminds me of my own style of playing.

Personally I just think he has ADD as a guitar player. He's so good, that he just gets bored of what he's doing really fast.

On the flyp syde. He's a really nice guy too. I'm fucking bummed that I didnt get to see him this year. =\
lol the next time i fuck up playing something I'll just say it's guitar ADD. It seems like Tim Reynolds does that too, especially when he does that after the goldrush cover. He'll get into it and it will be nice and then all of a sudden he breaks out into a few scales and then will go back to it. Totally random but cool.
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Unread post by fede » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:52 pm

Actually, most heavy metal hard core fast picking guitarists have had classic(al ?) training for the most part.

I can only imagine what playing Bach on a fucking guitar must be like.

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Unread post by lozthegreat » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:38 am

if this is real... (i really cant tell, but i think it is), i think playing this the same way (technique, speed, accuracy, and on an acoustic, would be the hardest song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1LN685YH7s

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Unread post by brian_ok » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:30 am

I wouldn't be surprised if some Leo Kottke songs are up there on the list. Finger picking at his speed is just ridiculous. Some of his songs are much easier than others, but a few are just insane.

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