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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:59 pm

that list is fairly messed up lol.
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Unread post by martinstud17 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:03 pm

what kind of scales does tim usually play with dave?
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Unread post by Dancing Ants » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:29 pm

ok, my quick addition to this thread:

LEARN YOUR MODES. scales are great..but suck if you're just running up and down scales during your solos. MODES are key to owning faces.
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Unread post by liljosh15 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:18 pm

I appreciate reading the help, but how do you know what key songs are in? I hope to take a guitar theory class to help me, but who knows if I'll ever get in. Thanks.

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Unread post by Tranman66 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:38 pm

Well, you look at the chords and if they fit the scale, then its in the key of that scale.
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Unread post by martinstud17 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:10 pm

hey tranman thanks for the sites they are really helpful
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Unread post by DMBFan63 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:50 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:that list is fairly messed up lol.
How do you figure that?
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Unread post by DMBFan63 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:51 pm

Locarius wrote:Cool! E#! :shock:
god damn man..clearly that E# is wrong..I was so fucking tired last night

No..that is definetly a I IV V..: E# scale: E# Fx Gx A# B# Cx Dx E#
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Unread post by Pickles » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:20 pm

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Locarius wrote:Cool! E#! :shock:
god damn man..clearly that E# is wrong..I was so fucking tired last night

No..that is definetly a I IV V..: E# scale: E# Fx Gx A# B# Cx Dx E#
just to make sure people know... its obviously impractical to use stuff like E#, but Fx means F sharped twice, aka G.

x = double sharp.

just some clarification
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Unread post by DMBFan63 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:23 pm

shane wrote:
DMBFan63 wrote:
Locarius wrote:Cool! E#! :shock:
god damn man..clearly that E# is wrong..I was so fucking tired last night

No..that is definetly a I IV V..: E# scale: E# Fx Gx A# B# Cx Dx E#
just to make sure people know... its obviously impractical to use stuff like E#, but Fx means F sharped twice, aka G.

x = double sharp.

just some clarification
Yea..I never said it was practical..I was just stating them all..

I'm fairly confident all of them are right..
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Unread post by gumbomadness » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:17 pm

TO KNOW WHICH CHORDS FOR A MAJOR SCALE:

(I will use the A major scale as an example)
A scale is as follows:
A B C# D E F# G#

henceforth:
In a major scale, your basic chords that fit... go like this.
the first one (first note of the scale) is major.
the second one is minor
the third one is minor.
the fourth one is major.
the fifth one is a major seventh chord.
the 6th one is minor.
the 7th one is a minor seventh flatted 5 chord.

So...
A Major
B Minor
C# Minor
D Major
E Major 7
F# Minor
G Minor 7 b5

are the chords that fit.

Play with those knowing which baare chord shapes fit with each.

if you dont know which barre chord shapes to use for major, minor, major 7, minor 7, minor 7 b5, etc...tell me..
maybe i can make a diagram and host it.

(then you can use the shapes for aaaany song you want and slide them around and such)
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Unread post by martinstud17 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:30 pm

im so confused with all of these chord names. i need to figure music out instead of just tabs i guess..........
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Unread post by gumbomadness » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:32 pm

martinstud17 wrote:im so confused with all of these chord names. i need to figure music out instead of just tabs i guess..........
my Barre Chord diagram that is coming up will help you with them... let me start it now.
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Unread post by DMBFan63 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:39 pm

gumbomadness wrote:TO KNOW WHICH CHORDS FOR A MAJOR SCALE:

(I will use the A major scale as an example)
A scale is as follows:
A B C# D E F# G#

henceforth:
In a major scale, your basic chords that fit... go like this.
the first one (first note of the scale) is major.
the second one is minor
the third one is minor.
the fourth one is major.
the fifth one is a major seventh chord.
the 6th one is minor.
the 7th one is a minor seventh flatted 5 chord.

So...
A Major
B Minor
C# Minor
D Major
E Major 7
F# Minor
G Minor 7 b5

are the chords that fit.

Play with those knowing which baare chord shapes fit with each.

if you dont know which barre chord shapes to use for major, minor, major 7, minor 7, minor 7 b5, etc...tell me..
maybe i can make a diagram and host it.

(then you can use the shapes for aaaany song you want and slide them around and such)
I call them Gm7 half diminished...atleast I believe half diminished and b5 are the same in 7ths..if I remember correctly. But yea, that works. I just say learn to read music. It makes like easier and much more enjoying.
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Unread post by martinstud17 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:41 pm

what scale would i play for this? i use a capo on the 2nd fret too.


E-2-3--------
B-3-1-3-3-1--
G-2-0-2-0-0--
D---2-0-4-2--
A-----0-5-3--
E-----3------
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